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    Is there more of this artist???
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    Looks like Drabok’s style. The one on the right edge, the only one still on the pillar, is the best. I’d love to see a lot more of her in similar poses, especially X between the pillars, lashed, and even more terrified.
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    Where is there more of this?? It looks amazing
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    Is this picture from a series
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    These are all artists on ATF from different series
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    Though it is nice to see some pictures in Drabok style, it is annoying that the series does not start at the beginning, is not uploaded in the proper order and - last but not least - is incomplete (well, hopefully the latter will change).

    Are the postings only appetizer? I wouldn't wonder if there suddenly some links appear, pointing to paysites - pardon - filehoster sites with only premium access.
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    I didn’t find them back in a quick search, but I’m sure the “bad end” ones renamed “BLACK GIRLS” and not in Drabok’s style were posted here over a year ago, and are thus not new anymore.
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    Yes, only the ones titled BLACKGIRLS are from Swiss Made and not very recent, the other ones are all recent stuff from Drabok. Drabok currently just posts on ATF (the forum on allthefallen dot moe), Swiss Made posts his free stuff on ATF as well.
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    Continue please
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    That's hot
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    Not new, depending on your definition of course.

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    I would love to torture and rape these little witches.
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    These are all from artists posting on AllTheFallen. Swissmad and Drabok
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    >>59166 Are there any more pictures?
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    These are by Drabok and are on ATF
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    That's hot. I'm not usually into drowning, but combined with needle torture it has a potential.
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    Very nice. Needles are my thing.
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    >>59635
    Where are these from?
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    And once more there are lots of images missing. :(
    It's no fun to read a story and get confused, not because you didn't pay attention, but because big parts of the story are not present.
    As an example I will list the image numbers of the newest chapter of "nsr ROI", starring Mrs. Peterson and her family.
    ???, 574, 575, 576, 577, 578, 579, 580, 581(a), 581b, 582, 583, 584, 585, 586, 587, 588, 589, 590, 591, 592, 593, 594, 595, 596, 597, 598, 599, 600, 601, 602, 603, 604, 605, 606, 607, 608, 609, 610, 611, 612, 613, 614, ???.
    As you may guess the numbers with a strike through are not available. The list shows that less than one third is posted. So I'd really like to know why this is the case. Is there any reasonable explanation?
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    the artist is named drabok
    nsr ROI stands for new school rules return of investment
    to be found at: a l l t h e f a l l e n . m o e
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    the artist is named drabok
    nsr ROI stands for new school rules return of investment
    to be found at: a l l t h e f a l l e n . m o e
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    Look like a great series.. could someone please fill in the missing pics.
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    > So I'd really like to know why this is the case. Is there any reasonable explanation?

    There is an explanation. If he wanted to, he could upload all the pictures here. But he doesn't. The website mentioned requires registration. Probably a honeytrap for pervs.
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    >>59822
    that's true ‒ even to up- or download a single picture. that raises the next questions: who uploads here? drabok or someone else? why would drabok post there and not (simultaneously) here the complete series? if he doesn't post here and there (i didn't check) all pictures ‒ for what reason? if it's someone else ‒ again for what reason? a honeytrap for pervs wouldn't work well, because a registration doesn't per se reveal an identity more than an access without it.
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    These are not posted here by Drabok have asked. Someone with access to Allthefallen is posting these by bits and pieces. They are skipping alot of them
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    > These are not posted here by Drabok
    I was expecting this. The upload here is probably made without Drabok's consent.

    > They are skipping alot of them
    That's what I'm upset about in the first place. Plus it looks now like a copyright infringement.

    Though I really like Drabok's work IMO the thread should be deleted.
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    Hello. Yes, I really am Drabok. If course I cannot proove that, but the attached picture, a so far unpublished render that will turn up soon in my story on ATF, should be strong evidence.

    I want to make some things clear:
    - It's not me who is posting my fairly recent pictures here.
    - The person who is doing it has not asked me to, but I do not mind that very much. I have always posted everything i produced for free and on free websites. I consider the works I post to be in the Public Domain: Anybody can feel free to repost them or even alter them. Of course I would like to see those alters, but if it doesn't happen, so be it.
    - I do not intend to start posting my work here on guro in parallel, simply because I do not have the time.
    - I do not think ATF is a honeytrap,simply because it has existed for too long and because I have never heard of an user getting in trouble for that.
    - If any existing or new member of ATF wants to fill the gaps in the story in this thread, they have my blessing.
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    >>59877
    Hello Drabok, nice to read from you. And to cite a lot of text lines of awkward characters in a lot of movies: "Big Fan!" :))

    After reading your statement the most important thing I'd like to do is to drop my recommendation of deleting this thread.
    Without a copyright infringement it's only the incompleteness that bothers.

    > a so far unpublished render
    Do I get it right that even on ATF the series is not (totally) available at this moment?
    If it is not uploaded at all, where is the poster fetching the images?

    Well, Thank you for your clarification and your hard work.


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    > I really am Drabok. If course I cannot proove that
    May I suggest the usage of a tripcode? It does not verify old postings, but ‒ though not perfect ‒ it proofs ones uniqueness to a high probability without revealing ones identity. Just have a look at https://www.guro.cx/faq/tripcode.html in case you haven't done already.
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    I don't think I will use tripcodes, becuase I don't see the point. I'm not very concerned to prove who I am. If people choose to not believe I am the person who for many years now has posted his work under the name of Drabok, so be it.

    nsr4 ROI is my newest and still ongoing story, I have not finished it myself yet.I never wait to post my stories until I have finished them and I have always updated them in small chunks.

    On ATF, I have posted this story up to image 621, the same one the reposter posted here only a few hours later. Of course only somebody who has access ATF could confirm that 656 has not been posted there yet, and because ATF is the only place where I am currently posting my web cannot be found anywhere else in the Internet until I have reached it on ATF, which will probably be in a week or so.
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    > If people choose to not believe I am the person who ...
    It's not about believing you. E.g. we haven't communicated until now. Nevertheless I think it's (probably) you I'm talking with.
    The point is to prevent copycats from claiming to be you and therefore protect the readers from being pranked.

    > I never wait to post my stories until I have finished them and I have always updated them in small chunks.
    This is not unusual. Most creator do so. But you normally don't post in a totally random order with a lot of gaps, do you?
    I remember that you switched between the stories sometimes ‒ especially during long runners like CDL or "Their Last Summer Camp" ‒, but the narrations were basically linear.
    Did you change this and the repost here is done in the same way you post on ATF?
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    I like it
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    More pics
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    >>59881
    No matter who it is that posted some of Drabok's art Drabok should still be happy because his art is getting seen by more people. The person who posted Drabok's art never claimed to be the person who posted the art. New could obviously just mean newly posted by the people who posted the art here. I don't ever remember there being any rule here saying that the art that you post here has to be created by the person who posts it, but I could be wrong.
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    You should always give credit to the artist if you know it, just good manners (thats asking a lot for the internet I know)
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    >>59909

    > Drabok should still be happy because his art is getting seen by more people.
    Really?
    You indeed think that he benefits from a reposting by Anonymous without credit and/or source?
    Sorry to say it, but this is ridiculous.

    > The person who posted Drabok's art never claimed to be the person who posted the art.
    I assume you mean "the person who created the art". Well, that's true. And yes, gurochan has no rule against posting other peoples work (https://guro.cx/rules/), which may be different on other sites. Although it is not a copyright infringment to repost Drabok's work ‒ as he explained >>59877 ‒ it still is a no-go to give no credit. I'm afraid ANON (>>59931) is right with the assessment that being polite is not very common in the internet.

    > New could obviously just mean newly posted by the people who posted the art here.
    Probably. OTOH it is weired to post each and every image with the subject and the comment "New". That's more or less an indication for the lack of own inspiration of this reposter. :>

    The reposting itself isn't what I'm complaining about in the first place. It's about the way it is done: throwing only small chunks and leaving out essential parts.
    But what bothers me most is the stubbornness of this reposter. Even without own ideas this person could react on objections.
    Or is it you, Anonymous (>>59909), who's to blame? ;)
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    Nice. Keep them coming.
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    >>59877
    Hi Drabok! I missed this when you posted it two months ago. I was only checking gurochan infrequently. Could you confirm or refute something? Someone has been posting here “assorted Bobuzi” that look for all the world like your work except with the white sidebar on the right instead of the left. Is this you, or someone else whose excellent work looks like yours? It even duplicates the “detention” sign that I’m quite sure was in one of your series, though the girl is different. I don’t much care if he is or isn’t you, yurt asking out of curiosity.
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    Dabok! Good to see you back here. Since ATF is shutting down, are you going to be over here for good?
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    Drabok is not posting here this is someone who has access to ATF and is posting his new work here as he posts it their. Bobuzi is another artist on ATF with similar style. I had a account their a while ago and they are not the same person.
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    >>60951
    Where can I find this whole story
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    So hot. These are getting better and better.
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    As I said I don't mind anybody to post my work here, but I would like you to post the complete story instead of just bits and pieces.
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    I think most people here are probably not posting their own art. I think people are just posting what they like.
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    >>62613

    > You don't seem to take very many requests from other people so why should others take request from you?
    You're not only rude, you're comparing apples with pears!

    Requests given to Drabok (the artist) are to urge him to provide customised images ‒ or in other words: to cause him work for the benefit of the requester.

    OTOH, Drabok ask the reposter(s) (the recipient/beneficiary) to respect his art and to not disrupt it.

    You see the difference? Think about it!

    ​

    >>62614

    > I think people are just posting what they like.
    And that's basically fine. But they do it without rhyme or reason. And often they do it with a lack of respect.
    Why don't they give credit to the creator?
    Why don't they provide the source of the posted stuff, especially if they post only parts?
    This would motivate the creators and make continuations more likely, wouldn't it?
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    >>63019
    You are wrong and you are the person who is being rude. Drabok never takes commissions & he rarely listens to his fans and he should do both.

    This is not the place to argue so that is enough of this
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    >>63025
    Hot. Please continue.
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    People... all that DRABOK is asking for is respect for his art. I can only imagine the time it takes to do each picture.
    Drabok.. if you read this, I respect you and your art. IMO You and Bobuzi are the masters in this genre.
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    >>63021

    > You are wrong
    Why? Because I don't share your opinion?

    > you are the person who is being rude.
    Again why? Because I tell the truth and you don't like it?

    > Drabok never takes commissions & he rarely listens to his fans and he should do both.
    And once more: Why? He's the artist and as such he should have the freedom to do his art without being interfered by any requests. If you are visiting an art gallery to buy a painting it's also a take it or leave it. Or ‒ to give an example from another art form ‒ would you expect that a musician takes requests from fans how to compose the next song?

    It is something different, if an artist takes commisions. He/she/it will be paid for doing what the customer is requesting. But you are demanding efforts without any compensation. Do you really think you have any right to do this?

    > This is not the place to argue so that is enough of this
    As long as there is someone with your expectations it is not enough talked about it.
    But you may be right that this is not the best place for it. If you want to discuss it further we can move on to /dis. I will have a look there for your answer, if you wish.
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    >>63068
    You definitely are wrong.

    It is true that Drabok never takes commissions and that he rarely takes suggestions. It is true that Drabok should take commissions and Drabok definitely should listen to his fans more.
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    >>63086

    > It is true that Drabok should take commissions and Drabok definitely should listen to his fans more.
    That's a nice statement.
    But it still lacks one important point:
    What is the answer to the question: Why?


    Oh, before I forget:
    > Stop arguing.
    Why? ;b

    > Find a better place to argue because there is no place for it here.
    I already offered to switch to /dis. So why didn't you post there?

    BTW, as long as the reposts here aren't done in a proper way, here is a ggod place to argue. Even Drabok isn't really happy about it (not the "that" but the "how": >>62570).
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    >>63109
    I agree that Drabok should take commissions, even though he never does.

    Drabok also never listens to his viewers and he never fixes his mistakes. Like how one of Drabok's fans recently recently pointed out that Drabok missed killing one of the girls in the NSR series and Drabok admitted that he missed her but then Drabok said that he would not correct his mistake and that he would not go back and kill her.
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    >>63120

    > ... just stop and go away because the vast majority of people clearly disagree with you.
    Wow, finally an answer with a reason. So instead of "Why?" I've have to ask: "Who is the 'vast majority'?" Scott Robertson, Brandon Hardding, suziesmith and you, Steven Christopher?

    > I agree that Drabok should take commissions, even though he never does.
    This is your opinion and it's your right to think so. But as long as Drabok doesn't share it there is nothing you can do to get your wish fullfilled. So why don't you just accept this and stop bothering everybody with your whining?
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    >>63334
    It is not just one person's opinion that Drabok should take commissions and listen to his fans. Most people think that Drabok should take commissions. Most people think that Drabok should listen to his fans.
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    taking commissions for guro artist is a dead end, it will prove he is doing something illegal, after the transaction he is pretty much cooked and deanonymized.
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    >>63339

    > ... Drabok asked you to stop arguing ...
    ROFL!
    You're funny, because you're not only stubborn, you're also ‒ I try to say it as politely as possible ‒ obtuse.
    It wasn't him who asked me to stop arguing, it was you, Uvette-Scott_Robertson-Brandon_Hardding-suziesmith-Steven_Christopher. He only recommended not to waste my time "trying to discuss with that other person". And I told him that it's no waste as long as I have fun. Did I already mention that you're funny?

    Oh, could you do me a favour? Pick one name and stick to it. It would be more convenient for me than always adding a name to the list of "most people". Thank you in advance.
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    fantastic work anonymous, hope there will be more
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    >>64434 Excellent series 😍
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    Do you do things other than hanging? Just curious...
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    >>59822
    Can all be done completely over Tor.
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