When I think about it, seems to me like all humans are meat. I can't buy into ideologies that elevate one group of humans above another on the basis of some arbitrary criteria. Just seems like a thin rationalization for ego stroking.

As a fantasy, I'm not into "women as fuckmeat". You can't meaningfully rape or torture fuckmeat, and above all, I'm into the suffering of women, not their subjugation. The suffering of a fully-realized human being with rights, education, personality, hopes and dreams is deeper and more gratifying than the suffering of someone who's already been relegated to second class status.