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2019/05/02
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14:33:59
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>> 9136
Onix,
I have two Replies for you.
One reply is mean, the other is not so mean.
Since I am convinced you deserve both,
you may get them.
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MEAN FIRST:
Onix, during the entire debate between us,
I have dragged you through the mud,
slapped you all over place
and fucked you into every hole your body
might have to offer.
Since this is a guro-board,
I am inclined,
to go get a driller and MAKE you provide
more holes to fuck into.
;))
I've clearly won.
Admit & submit.
———————————————-
NOT-SO-MEAN
In the following I will just quote you
and provide a small comment on that quote.
I think this is the most fair way to respond.
And also the most productive.
[1]
>> My idea is that you can pay for my work to get it like usual or if you don't want to pay you can contact me describe why you don't want to donate[…].
*** Do you believe, that this is pragmatic?
*** Do you think that people (like yourself)
*** Would go that cumbersome route if they
*** could just RIP it off without asking?
*** Are you really able to invest that much
*** time to read all the excuses, that ppl
*** will bring up, just to NOT pay you.
*
* Do you think you will believe them?
[2]
>> […]then you will get everything for free along with my private request not to share that with other people online […].
*** hmmm… really? huh?
*** do you think that request of yours
*** will stop people?
[3]
>> Another model is to scatter your works all around the internet and then sell them as collection to paying customers, while the rest can try to hunt them themselves like some Pokemon. In that case I consider providing index page of what is available so that people always know what they are missing
*** I honestly think that this is a
*** cool idea.
*** If your art is good, this will
*** engage people, spawn interest and
*** conversation.
*** as a marketing-strategy: TOP
*** but if this will be a selling-point…
*** … unsure (must be tested)
*** As soon as all of your scattered works
*** are collected in one place (eg: reddit),
*** you lost your selling point.
[4]
>> Average Joe will spend days or weeks hunting for that stuff,[…].
*** Oh… dear… NEVER underestimate the
*** average Joe.
*** Even if the resources of a single Joe
*** might be limited, there are THOUSANDS
*** of them. → Swarm intelligence/coop
[5]
>> People who pay usually do not like to interact in any way, they just throw money on you and you will not even know who it was you will not even find out if they liked your work and this is also very frustrating
*** TOTALLY AGREED!
*** You wouldn't believe how many of the
*** artists, that I consult would love
*** to interact with the people who enjoy their
*** works just to get inspired by the reactions
*** their ideas might provoke.
*** I feel that too from time to time.
———————————————-
CONCLUSION:
You behave like an animal towards other artists,
But you obviously want to be treated as
a human being.
It seems to me that you are wielding a very
two-sided sword, you call moral.
Overthink that.
Some of your ideas concerning money and how
it is made (through donations) are naive,
to be polite.
Personally I wish you the very best with that,
but I honestly believe that it is going to
be hard and painful.
Maybe, if you experience that pain your views
on things might change.
I am open to talk again some time.
The treasure-chase Idea is quite a brilliant
marketing gag. Shortlived but brilliant.
I like it.
I hope you don't mind if I *COPY* that idea?
;P
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cheers
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