>>10516

Then let's get things straight, shall we?

If loli gets banned, it won't be missed by people like me who don't give a single fuck about it, and it will allow people who hate it to come. The only people who it will make gurochan irrelevant is the people like you. If you seriously think that's the only reason why people got here, you'd be gravely mistaken. Even non-loli websites didn't disappear among themselves.

Also, not everybody knows how about sites like Pixiv and even how to browse it to find stuff. Just look around. People always tell others how to source back picture on Pixiv. Besides, that site isn't without issues. More than half of its content are censored teasers for Patreon and Fanbox content. So, yes. More sites with guro material IS better and I bet most people here would at least agree on that.

What I said about lolis still stands. Just as I previously said: as an art form, it exaggerates traits so much that you can't tell for sure about the age of the character unless it was clearly stated. The same can even be said about chibi. This why it lies in a gray area. I really don't know why we are arguing about it when we are basically saying the same thing.

Using a faithful 3d model of a prepubescent child is another story because it is clear of what it's supposed to depict. Even if you live in a free country like the US, it can still bring you a hell lot of trouble. You can say as much as you want that the model's character age is subjective but this will not be enough to fool anyone. There is precedents where sites using only this kind of models for porn were taken down precisely because they couldn't use that argument as a reasonable rebuttal. Legally speaking, especially when it comes to perceptions and crafted materials, a precise age will not be a requirement even if it's unknowable. Only that the age is "reasonably" the one of a child is (on a case-by-case basis).

Besides, you may think posting that stuff here may be safe. It may legally be the case just by looking where gurochan is currently hosted… But don't think it truly is in every aspects, or that it won't bite you in the future. What happened to authors like Juan Gotoh and Teh-Dave/Beaver are both examples of what I'm talking about (but hey, who am I to tell you what to do, after all).

That said, the "cheat" would be the same for 2d content. You can use stylized models that uses these proportions and sizes, and meet your personal criteria of cuteness (since we are talking about lolis, aren't we?). As long as it's stylized enough - be it in anime style, furry, western, who cares - you'd be "mostly safe" within that same gray area. This is basically what I meant by not going too far in the pedo route.

Now let's just leave that to that. You and I will likely not agree on the topic further, anyways.