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Also, as an added bonus, I actually did work in the health care industry over the past several months last year.

IT WAS A GODFORSAKEN NIGHTMARE. Forget the fact that Obamacare was NEVER designed to actually work. The problem I had to deal with was folks complaining about "MUH, WHY ISN'T MY HEALTH INSURANCE FREE?!?" Let do some basic economics:
>First, here is the actual system in place
With the way Obamacare works (At least, for my state), you sign up through the public health care website, input some basic information, and and then you're given a list of "qualified health plans" (Which basically means they cover the absolute minimum amount of coverage to meet all of the Obamacare guidelines, but doesn't actually mean shit in practice; had to lay this out several time to those who thought they were buying legit vision and dental coverage and explained that FULL coverage is completely separate). NOW HERE IS WHERE ALL THE FUN KICKS IN. If you want you're healthcare payments REDUCED, you enter in all your financial information. THIS WAS COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT. It wasn't because of the way the system works, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING NORMALFAGS THAT WERE CALLING UP AND WANTING SOMETHING FOR NOTHING.

On the one hand, you had those who were trying to "cheat" the system by claiming less than they were really making in order to pay less than they could afford or to be eligible for Medicaid (Which is free). However, to counteract this, the government can demand that you provide financial documentation (Which could be anything as simple as a napkin jotting down your month's profit and loss statement, which some people find to be a near IMPOSSIBLE task, something that every search engine of the internet cannot help them accomplish), with those of us working on the system then updating the financial information to give you the CORRECT coverage that you're suppose to be receiving. Now, some of you may find this objectionable, but even the most Liberal leaning coworkers in the office kept saying how Obamacare was suppose to make "health coverage" affordable, NOT free. And, this is on top of the fact that Medicaid goes on a month by month basis with no deadline for signing up, which means you can actually cheat by making an OBSCENE amount of money in one month of the year, making nothing the remaining 11, and be considered qualified (Try telling me THAT'S fair).

Then, that is also leaving out the nightmare of having people that think they're "too good to get Medicaid for free", and try to cheat things IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, so that they're "paying" (Or not paying at all) for the standard healthcare when they're actually eligible for Medicaid. And, when you explain to these people that their ONLY other option is to pay full price for regular coverage, they have an absolute fit. And, then there was this one guy who made an insane amount from some crazy inheritence and tried to argue with me about how "The standad health coverage doesn't apply to him". But enough of that. Hopefully that gives you SOME idea of what's going on. And, THANK GOD Trump somewhat "fixed" the law by removing the tax penalization for having NO coverage. I came on during the LEAST active year for open enrollement, and I still fantasized about wanting to go postal on some of these idiots.

>Second, who's paying for it?
The health coverage plans under Obamacare ARE legit health coverage plans. However the government pays a potion of the coverage (Or all of it in the case of Medicaid and Medicare). WELL, where does the government get the money? They can't "print it" as payment because that would crash the value of the American dollar; even though Nixon, in all his brilliance, was the one that made the American dollar fiat money in the first place: https://infogalactic.com/info/Fiat_money
So, that leaves two options. OPTION #1: they take that money form other programs like Social Security (Like they do with everything else that needs funding), except SS is DEAD BROKE. So, that leaves OPTION #2: tax the people. But, of course, you "cannot tax the poor" for reasons that escape me (Especially when the "homeless" guy at the corner McDonalds was making more in five hours of the day than I was at a full-time job in a week). So, you "tax the rich" without actually understanding how any of this shit works.

The "rich" tend to be those that own the companies that "produce everything". Well, when you shift the tax onto them, OF COURSE, they're going to weasel out of it beacause FUCK anyone that's going to seperate them from their wealth. So, they shift the tax onto the person buying the product. In other words, when everything boils down, the same people who want to weasel out of paying for health coverage, END UP BEING THE PEOPLE WHO PAY FOR HEALTH COVERAGE (Except, now you spread out the problem to encompass everyone, YOU SELFISH FUCK!).
>But muh tax breaks
Yes, you do bring up a good point. Because of tax breaks the "rich" don't have to pay "as much" as everyone else. Here's a good video that actually boils it all down and explains why: https://invidio.us/watch?v=FeaGNYLFht0
EXCEPT, the rich ARE paying majority of the taxes anyway. YOU HEARD RIGHT, despite paying almost nill percentage-wise, the rich are the ones who are actually funding everything in the country: https://archive.md/z3yKY
SO YOU ALREADY HAVE THE SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT YOU WANT. Congratualtions! How great is this "dream system" that you've been complaining about that "If only X, Y, and Z happened…", when it's already taking place, but you're still bitching about it like my cat when she's hungry and there's no one else in the house.

FUCK OFF with thinking that you can "fix things" when you're no better than any other degenerate on this site. How about you actually LEARN your country's fucking economic system, and succeed in it, BEFORE you get the bright idea thinking that something about it should be changed.