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Well, I am not an active PUA and not planning to become ever for reasons I described a long time ago in that but as I am interested in psychology I study all that stuff and I have enough experience with women some in real life and most of it on the internet. and admit it yourself you can't really have a relationship with more than 10 women in your life and call it a good representative sample so talking from personal experience is pointless, you need to refer to the experience of other people and statistic
while on the internet you can interact with quite a lot of them.

>You're not a pickup artist, so you should stop basing your worldview on pickup artist doctrine.

this is not a pickup artist doctrine it is the doctrine that I want a woman to share my interests and have something in common with me to make it worth being together.
At this time my only interest is pleasure and fun maintaining my current lifestyle. So any woman who wants family children or whatever else irrelevant is out of the question. I am not going to change my interests or my life to convince some women just to have sex with her.
I did meet a few suitable women over the internet but obviously moving to another continent just to have some fun with someone who has a questionable look is a bit overkill.

Getting in a relationship with someone who has nothing in common with you is the most idiotic idea ever.
and this is what many PUAs do.
This is the main idea I am trying to present in this thread.


So the main problem is not convincing women to have sex with you bust actually meeting someone who is suitable for you. When you meet the right one you will naturally have sex with her eventually without making any effort at all.

>"Responsibility" means that when you do a thing, you acknowledge that you had a choice and accept the consequences. You could have chosen not to do it. When you rape a woman, terrorizing and degrading her so you can feel powerful, it is your fault. You are responsible for raping her, so all blame and punishment falls on you. Her clothes did not make you do it. Her breasts did not make you do it. You made you do it, and you always had a choice to stop. You are therefore morally responsible for the suffering you inflicted upon her. There is no insanity plea, there is no "I knew not what I did" defense. Do you understand me now, Onix?

This seems to be so irrelevant that I just failed to understand it that time, and of course, I agree and understand it now. but this absolutely does not apply to me or to this discussion and nobody in the sane mind would think that way. I already said it too that I am responsible for my own happiness, so if I make a choice responsibility is on me.

I was assuming another kind of responsibility which is typically used in this context on similar discussions as a responsibility to do something, not for yourself. like for example responsibility to defend your country to raise children to preserve your traditions, take care of women where you get no benefit at all.
I totally reject all those responsibilities.
And when you do that it is pretty common to be labeled infantile commitment-phobic etc.
There is also another kind of responsibilities as a responsibility not to murder rape steal etc and I reject them too.

So the argument to the feminist argument which you presented that "woman is autonomous being and not obligated to have sex with you" my response is I am equally not obligated not to rape or kill her.

for example, there was one discussion with feminist where she said

"women are highly endangered in situations when they reject men because those men can kill them."
"then do not reject them"
"women are autonomous beings and can choose with wong they want to be"
"then it is their own problem if they are getting murdered not mine. I am not obligated to protect them or do anything to help them"

See, by your own logic if a woman makes choice to reject a man then it is her own responsibility to deal with consequences.
If you demand me to protect women I will demand something back from them in exchange.

> Putting women down makes them feel good about themselves, gives them courage to approach women, allows them to be salesmen.
that is exactly what I refer to being a cuck when you are acting as a salesman.

In a normal situation, everything must happen naturally. as you meet a woman you talk with her you find that you like each other and then you have sex not that you see a woman who does not give a shit about you and then you act like a clown to convince her to let you bang her.

approaching random women on the street trying to pick them up is total idiocy because you have nothing in common with them they are absolutely irrelevant.
but when you meet women in the environment that is right for you everything happens like some magic unless you are autistic or stupid.

My complaint about women is that they are so different from men that you cannot find anything in common with them most of the time. Typically you will not even find any common environment besides various clubs and bars.

except that B.B guy who loves drinking and spending time in bars so naturally, he is picking up women every day
But if you have other kinds of hobbies, like building spy drones, well you will have to stay alone.