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>The whole point of being a victim is that you couldn’t do anything about it. How could you have stood up for yourself if I go to your house and burn it down while you were sleeping? How could you have stood up for yourself if you were out shopping and a bomb from a terrorist attack blew you up before you could realize?

We are not talking about that kind of victim but rather about victims of repeat abuse. not avoid victims of terrorism or robbery.
and if you are being bullied that is because you do not stand up against the bully. because no batter how strong is the bully you can take some weapon or resort to dirty tactic. Like for example what prevents you from sneaking on the bully kicking his balls and then bludgeoning him until he cannot stand and at least has a few broken bones. Let's say you have an abusive father who beats you. what prevents you from taking baseball bat or steel pipe and smashing his knee making him unable to walk for a month or two? or better break his fingers and he will not be able to beat you anymore. A simple and effective way to end abuse by 100% certainty.
You being abuser cannot prevent this from happening if you are living with your victim or meet them routinely. That is living in constant fear. An abuser will only choose a victim who is willing to be a victim.

>You then contradict yourself by saying Elliot was an unfortunate victim and it was society’s fault we didn’t treat him better (which it wasn’t. He had a loving family, he was well off and had people to help him. He was just an entitled and antisocial douche) even though you just said that the blame is on the victims.


One guy did good research about Eliot's life and other stuff. You should watch it if interested. He even got hacked emails from Eliot's family where you can see his conversations with his mother and father. It was anything but a loving family and he was not doing that well financially.

Actually he was a pretty good nice boy who was extremely shy, what was the reason why he had no friends (except in childhood when his stepmother forcefully introduced him to a group of kids and later when someone approached him at school.) later he was living totally alone without any friends. And it is pretty normal that he went insane from all that loneliness. If you have someone who is lonely expect bad things to happen.

And in the end, he was just like the op surviving purely on hate, fantasizing how he will destroy and enslave all women who actually never did anything wrong to him besides totally ignoring him, they did not even hurt him or reject him because he never even came close to any one of them. Because of that hate, he could not even go to his college and lots all remaining chances to ever make any friends male or female.

It could be all avoided if women were not that passive and at least someone approached him, said hi, and offered her friendship the same way as men approach women.
or if I could talk to him and explain to him that he is not really missing anything and the resin he does not have a girlfriend is because he does not even want it.
because of his lack of experience, he was just living in the fantasy world imagining that other people get something so great what he will never have.

Of course, I do not blame his victims individually but I blame them as being part of society who did not help him and believe that this society is right. Funny enough his victims were mostly just the same unfortunate people as he himself. he was planning to kill few gorgeous bimbos but because the dormitory door was closed killed just few ugly girls passing by who probably would happily date him if he said "hi" instead of shooting them.
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