This went strange way.
The link you provided about FGM sem to fully repeat what I said above I could not find anything better myself.
and in fact it explains the main problems as well. Just like I said the reason for FGM and other similar practices is not to improve female behavior as it is MARRIAGEABILITY and as it was said in that article the goal is to marry high value man
If woman is ok with some piss poor loser she does not need to do any of that she can live happy romantic life wandering around sleeping under the tree and starving together while being happy that her boyfriend manage to catch some rat or worm. marriage is entirely irrelevant in that situation.
But no that's not what women want they want rich resourceful guy and it does not matter that he will treat her like shit as long as he is resourceful.


>i'm saying patriarchal cultures are deeply unsexy to women.
And so what? whose fault is that? And the question is whether you can even in theory create a culture which is sexy to women considering very serious issue with female sexuality in general.

>patriarchal cultures aren't unsexy to men. in fact the objectification of women makes men more sexually frustrated.............

That's the strangest claim I ever encountered, because what you essentially say is that repression of male sexuality is what makes it so sexy. maybe some men have masochistic tendencies and suffering and frustration makes them very aroused but I think majority just get angry and bitter.

Also I don't even understand the meaning of that "romance" or "seduction". as if women are so interested in that stuff why men have to do it? and as I see from practice, the real meaning is that you just have to make effort and suffer while another person will judge your performance.
which, as I said before, makes women nothing more than sex objects. If you don't act you are object so your romance and seduction is exactly what makes women sex objects.
You can't eat cake and keep it, either women take active actions, either they are sex objects.

>both japan and europe made an effort to uphold this illusion for a while, at least in the upper classes. really it was not disinterest in sex, it was scorn for women....

you need to care about the difference between real high value man and son of high value man, real high value man is one who achieved all by himself. And that is only possible if he has high determination to achieve things and work very hard. Like high value men say: "chase excellence not women"
So it is not illusion.
yes of course there will be quite a lot of fake high value men and also high value men who suddenly encountered middle age crisis. But in general, real high value men have no interest in sex if they had they woud not be high value men. It is just impossible.


>i think this is obviously not true. before the internet, was masturbation addiction as common as porn addiction is now?

masturbattion addction is technically impossible for biological reaons at least for men. because if you have orgasm you lose interest. for quite some time and you need pretty strong stimulation to recover quickly or otherwise you will stay uninterested for few days.
But even if one has high sex drive and masturbates like twice a day that will have no effect on their life because it takes just few minutes to reach orgasm and wasting 10 minutes a day is not going to do much impact on your life. what it rather will do is to kill your motivation and change your life goals.

Porn addiction is very different because if you spend several hours on porn every day that has very serious impact on your performance. If men were interested in just having orgasm, making 1 hour long porn movie woud be ridiculous idea.

Your links don't seem to have any relevance to dopamine but I see it interesting that porn addiction is essentially compared with money addiction.

>i think this is your central contention. "women are asexual" is an auxiliary point
I can agree on that in part, but when it is about acquiring resources and status women seem to be pretty strongly motivated. Feminist women show quite a determination if doing those dumb things rather than redirecting it into sex and just screwing everyone in the town as a man woud usually behave.
also it shows quite strong motivation of woman is happy to get mutilated just to get rich resourceful husband.
In fact this is typical source of conflict in the family when a man wants to have fun and woman is nagging and complaining that he is not making enough effort to achieve things.