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Thank you for the substantial additions

>Saying "I am sorry" in the context you said is insult if you don't understand that


I didn't realize that showing sympathy would be taken as me insulting you. I would apologize, but I don't want to accidently insult you again.

>It is always whenever you read someone like you that women need this women need that their life has those and that problems, but interests of men are absolutely irrelevant.


I made no such claim. I happen to believe that men are also sociologically disadvantaged in many ways in which women aren't, but you weren't disparaging men, so I felt no need to bring it up.

Yes, men are largely expected to pay for meals on dates, even when both parties make comparable wages. Yes, men are conditioned into thinking that they can't show their emotions outside of a select few. And yes, men are expected to be the person who advances a relationship, even if the girl is more ready than the guy. Obviously, there's plenty more disadvantages that guys experience, but these were the first that came to mind

>even if a man gets falsely accused women will just say well that sad but we need to protect women even if it destroys few innocent men.


No one says that - at least not anyone who isn't a sociopath who wants to falsely accuse someone themselves. The reason the idea of "believe women when they claim they were raped/assaulted" is a thing, is because historically such claims would be (and often still are) disregarded. Especially when the accused is in a position of power - which is the only time these claims go public, since otherwise either law enforcement gets involved, or the victim never prosecutes.

>if she wanted sex same as men, she would want to get into my pants with the same level of desire as mine rather that expecting me to be just her friend. and she would seem me as another sex object as I see her.


I agree that if the two of you had identical levels of desire (and found each other equally attractive) you would each want to fuck each other equally. But the "sex object" thing comes from misogyny (not sex drive), so unless she's amisandrst she's not going to view you the same way.

> if I make effort to convince her to become my friend that is exactly her parasitizing on me because I am making effort and she is doing nothing in return why I am supposed to do it instead of being approached by some woman who makes me her friend?


I wasn't saying to put a large amount of effort into it. I literally suggested you become "casual friends" because that's as simple as having the occasional conversation, with none of them devolving into "wanna bang?" or "ew, you're ugly, bye bitch".

And most women aren't likely to approach you to make friends with you because they see how you're treating the other women around you (or you're only surrounded by other guys, in which case she's probably worried that at least one of you will try to rape her).

I imagine you're not currently attending university, and I have no idea what your work life is like, but that's where most people make casual friends. A girl's not likely to approach you in a bar unless she wants something, but the same is true for men coming up to a girl. This is too much effort to ask of someone online, but you could always join an irl group that focuses on your interests - chances are there's at least one girl there you can chat with if you don't outwardly show how misogynistic you are.

>Being her friend I probably give lots of value to her by fixing her stuff helping to carry heavy things maybe inviting her to travel together at my expense


At least half of my friends are women and this has never come up. The most heavy lifting you're likely to be asked to help with is if she's moving, which happens very rarely - and only if you're one of the first two people she thinks of who accept. And more likely, it's her boyfriend/husband's friends who are going to be asked to help her move, and she'll only ask her friends if she's not dating a guy, or they happen to be nearby.

A girl is more likely to ask her dad to help fix something than she would a casual friend, and if a girl expects you to pay to travel together, I can only assume she's coming on to you. When I've traveled with friends, we all paid for our own transportation, and otherwise split bills pretty evenly.

>actually there si even one anime about that which illustrates what I am saying.


From what I can tell from the wiki page, the "parasitism" in that case stems from race, not gender (perhaps all people of that race are female?), and they literally would die without it. Perhaps you're saying this is a good allegory, but not even all of the women in the show are of that race

> to show what parazitizing means

"Uzaki-chan want's to hang out"
Nagatoro boyfriend whom she is teasing all the time
and Jerry in the "Rick and Morty"
they are all parasites who do nothing but get taken care by people who love them

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something, but are those last two examples of guys being parasites? Why would that be evidence that all women are parasitic?

And lastly

>This parasitizing thing is not necessarily always bad because we actually love keeping parasites when they are cute, we usually call them our "pets"


So it seems I was correct when I surmised that you don't truly view women as people. At least not in the same way that you do other guys. It must be depressing living in a world where half the bodies are inhabited by people, and the rest are reluctant fleshlight leeches. I'm glad I'm not living in that world, it sounds awful
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