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> it is irrelevant if character is somebody or not
> It does not matter if Romeo and Juliet existed or not in reality
How is it irrelevant when
> real people can't do that once they cant come back
I'd call that very very relevant.

> if you could do same with real world then it would make no difference form fantasy anymore.
So it WOULD be no different IF a certain condition was met, while now that this condition isn't met it IS very much different. So turns out it is indeed very very relevant whether something is real or fictional, it makes all the fucking difference.

> that is the fundamental problem of fiction
It's not a problem for anyone but you. It's what enables fiction to be enjoyable with a clear conscience even when it contains violence, death and whatever else that you would never want to happen in real life.

> they can make characters die for good which is not so much a death than end of the story and knowledge that you will never see those characters again
Except when the author has a change of heart and writes another story with them anyway. Or simply another author writes a story with the same characters. But what does it matter if another author does it or the same one? It would be all the same if I just signed a different name under each of my stories, but since nobody but you has a problem with it, how about you just imagine different names under each of my stories on your end?

> there always can be sequel where they get back and continue
> you keep bringing characters back then they are by definition immortal
> it becomes irritating to see how characters are clueless about how their world works
You're talking from a standpoint that each of my stories is a sequel to a previous one. WHICH THEY ARE NOT. You wouldn't read a fanfic on Harry Potter expecting it to be a sequel to all the other pieces of Harry Potter fanfiction you've ever read. So stop putting this nonsensical expectation on my stories. When in one piece of fanfiction Hermione dies and then in another she's alive and well again, it's not because some resurrection magic happened somewhere behind the scenes and now the story must acknowledge that such resurrection magic exists in their world, no it's just because they're two separate independent stories. If I want to write a story about, say, Caesar, I don't have to establish that the story's world has resurrection, I can just set it in the time when he was still alive. And no, it doesn't establish that the story's world has time travel either. And then if I have him fight some aliens (extraterrestrials) instead of Gauls, that doesn't mean any other story featuring Caesar from now on has to acknowledge these events. Imagine you've read my story about Caesar fighting aliens, then you read another story about him and it doesn't acknowledge the existence of aliens... why the hell would you expect it to? Nobody would expect that except for you. Your understanding of fiction is nonsensical.

> they should finally get aware that they are in the story
They do actually, in one specific 100-words story where that's the whole point of the story. They have no obligation to do the same in any other story, just like Caesar has no obligation to remember his fight with the aliens. And also every story featuring Caesar has no obligation to have him remember being killed and going "huh, so I must be in a piece of fiction then". One COULD do so if they WANTED to, like in this one 100-words story of mine where I did it because that's what I wanted form this particular story, but there's no obligation or expectation for all stories about Caesar to go like that, if anything the expectation is usually the opposite. So why should there be such an expectation from Kagamine Twins specifically?

> they can't die and they behave like they know it
No, they behave like they're characters in a casual guro story. Note that this is different from behaving like they know they're such characters. Think how characters in, say, romantic comedies behave not at all like real people. They behave like characters of romantic comedies. But that doesn't equal them acknowledging they're fictional characters in a romantic comedy. If you have problems comprehending this, those problems are only yours.

> As how many time times can have batman and joker fighting each other like for the first time?
While I too don't enjoy comic universes constantly being rebooted, I have at least enough brain to understand the concept of reboot and how it's different from sequel. They're not fighting LIKE for the first time, for them within the story it IS indeed the first time. Separate the fucking contexts. You know how object-oriented programming has such principles as abstraction and encapsulation? Your nonsensical attitude to fiction is basically violating them. Demanding one story to acknowledge the events of another story of which it is not a sequel is like demanding a class has access to attributes of another class of which it doesn't inherit. Or, alright, if you want to appeal to how they're having the same characters, so they're connected in some way, let me try a better one... it's like demanding that an object has access to attributes of any other object of the same class. Which then totally ruins the point of there being separate objects.

> There must be at lest some progression.
Would you similarly demand for Cleopatra from the Fate franchise to remember and progress on the events of Asterix and Obelix? Or for Cleopatra in each of like 10 movies titled Cleopatra to remember and acknowledge how there were already so many movies before this one? Any sane person who can tell fiction from reality and one piece of fiction from another piece of fiction will see how this is nonsensical.