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    GUROchan now has ads to support its continued growth.

    The site has been expanding rapidly, and with that comes increasing storage costs. The /ai/ board in particular is seeing large uploads, which is great to see - but it also means we're slowly getting close to the limits of what we can maintain without additional funding. Expanding storage and improving GUROchan's infrastructure comes with permanent monthly expenses.

    When I took over 5 years ago, it was already stated that ads might be introduced eventually. That point has now been reached in order to keep the site stable and able to grow further.

    We won't take measures against users who choose to use adblockers.

    How ads are implemented may change over time, and they may be removed if they don’t prove worthwhile.
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    Fucking greedy bastard
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    I'm perfectly fine with having ads to keep this site running so long as you do not abandon the true nature of this site just because the advertisers want you to.
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    Good luck getting ad support on here when every couple hours its spammed by cp
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    >>24704
    pretty much this.
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    I understand the need for additional revenue but there goes the ability to read this site discretely when there's others about...
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    >>24716
    use adblockers. what i'm more concerned about is making sure this site get's it's money's worth for all the inconvenience that these adds brings.
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    I have web hosting experience. Hell, I have GUROchan hosting experience, having run this site before it was passed to you. A site of this size can be easily operated out of pocket at under $20/month. 200 GB NVMe, 2 cores, 4 GB RAM, 100 Mbps would be more than enough. You just need to avoid overpriced hyperscalers like Digital Ocean.

    If you do ads, DO NOT CENSOR CONTENT just because the advertiser wants you to! And have you considered supporting donations via cryptocurrency? I would donate.
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    Hey ryonaloli! i missed you in the webchat last night

    20$ isn't a lot for a lot of people, but I'm a young NEET from the 3rd world so that would be like the equivalent of a day's wage here, if I had a job.

    I'll still make sure GUROchan is running for the foreseeable future (even if the ahead is tough, eventually requiring server or domain migrations as things go south). Luckily bandwidth isn't a big issue in this age, but RAM (and more recently, storage) is. GUROchan is already hundreds of gigabytes, and from our research, our host charges more for space than most (we can't host with cheap commercial services for obvious reasons). We already got suspended from 2 services due to our content. I'm hoping it will be enough for the upcoming few years. My friend kuz has also purchased me a 2TB disk just so I can do monthly backups, in case the server experiences failure or is suspended someday.

    The ads obviously won't bring a whole lot from what I see, it's not surprising most advertisers want to avoid their content on GUROchan.

    We will never censor anything here. If this attitude eventually makes us ineligible for ads (a possibility with the current direction of things), maybe we can consider donations then. But for now, while ads are slightly inconveniencing, they are a more stable source of money and saves us from begging to our users.

    I am still thankful for your offer. I don't want to rely on users, but I can make a donation page, and if it seems the donations are sufficient to replace the ad revenue, we can take them down after seeing the situation.

    Here is a page for cryptocurrency donations:
    https://www.guro.cx/donations/
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    Honestly I'd do weekly backups, not monthly. Use an incremental backup solution so it doesn't fill up the disk and eat through the server's monthly bandwidth limits.

    What I did when I ran the site was use a GRE tunnel as a reverse proxy. That let us host with an ISP that would absolutely not allow guro, but they had no idea and never could find out. Then the GRE tunnel was hosted with a cheap service that allowed that content, and if they ever stopped, we could have moved to another GRE tunnel without ever migrating all the data. You should give that some consideration if it helps.

    I don't know how much you're currently paying for the servers, but I just sent $120 to the XMR donation address, which should cover 6 months at $20/month.
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    >>24747
    >Use an incremental backup solution so it doesn't fill up the disk and eat through the server's monthly bandwidth limits
    Right, that's what I do - other way isn't feasible with my own network speeds/bandwidth limits...
    I usually do it more often than once a month too, but I can't comfortably promise being able to do it every week due to some constraints I have in my current life style.

    I really appreciate the donation m(_ _)m

    Costs with our provider are a bit higher than that - the internet is not as free as it was back in the 2000s, so we are left with only a handful of reputable service providers, and none of them are offering the market rates. I may look into your GRE tunnel suggestion at some point, but right now things are stable.

    As of right now, the ad experiment hasn't even gone on for a week, so we can't predict the income. If it proves unsatisfactory, we may remove them. In any case, I don't want to simultaneously ask for donations and run ads. I really just want to save up enough money to keep the site going for a long time, so I don't have to worry about the site going down if my situation suddenly changes or we get new expenses, as I have no source of income and that won't change any time soon.

    I don't want to depend on any single user to help the site stay afloat, not only because it places a expectation on them, but because donations are usually one off events, not recurring.
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    What about incognet.io? They are super free speech oriented for anything legal, and cheap. They even allow kiwifarms so certainly they'd allow gurochan
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    >>24750
    Kiwifarms is 100% legal in the US, its just speech. The laws around porn especially the dreaded loli are not as clear cut. Some times people get imprisoned for it in some states, sometimes not. Companies won't touch it and I believe /3dcg/ is already illegal in California due to recent laws. Not to mention ID verification laws coming up every week
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    Could we find less awful ads? These are particularly awful.
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    >>24751
    Well that's why you use the GRE tunnel for a reverse proxy. Host on a cheap mainstream provider like OVH then proxy through a sketchy provider. You can actually end up saving money even though you have to use two providers.
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    i suggest more ads with lesbians
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    My big problem with ads is how damned annoying and distracting the animated ones are... which is unfortunately most of them these days.

    I wouldn't be so eager to block more tastefully done, less intrusive non-animated ads.

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