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    Motherless is down again
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    Who cares, place sold out for ad revenue and started deleting "offensive" content. ThisVid can suck a dick too, they made all the scat content private.

    I always tell people, save your porn. At any point it could just turn into a 404 error.
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    >>25063
    If Motherless goes fully offline, that'll be insane because I was thinking of saving favourited images I've had for ages. Quite the coincidence that it went off today...
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    >>25064
    >I always tell people, save your porn. At any point it could just turn into a 404 error.
    while that is very much true and good advice, it is still a reason to be concerned, if a site of this magnitude
    gets successfully attacked by essentially ultra right wing christian hate groups.
    now if the claims about legal issues prove to be true, that is a different matter, but first and foremost at least the spirit behind it
    seems to be an attack on freedom of speech and expression. those can and should not be taken for granted. they have been fought for in the past
    to achieve the liberties many of us enjoy today and still have to be defended, likely always will.
    having a treasure trove of porn offline at your disposal is good prepping for bad times, but if and when the world outside turns to totalitarianism,
    spearheaded by Neo-puritans, sooner or later nothing may be safe. in an age of total surveillance and control through big data, rather sooner than later.
    do I love motherless that much? no. freedom of speech on the other hand I would not want to lose. and this is why I do not think that this is a matter
    that should be just shrugged off or taken lightly. especially because these kinds of attacks happen more and more frequently and apparently successful.
    that is not good at all, or trivial.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.
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    It moved to motherless.xxx.
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    >>25064

    >I always tell people, save your porn.
    And with the aspects mentioned in >>25066, especially ...
    > ... sooner or later nothing may be safe. in an age of total surveillance and control ...
    ... it is very important to encrypt the files. Have a look at open source programs like 7zip or VeraCrypt.
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    >>25067
    Thanks so much, man. I had no idea.
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    >>25067
    the move was expected, but if the site will recover remains to be seen
    >>25068
    >... it is very important to encrypt the files. Have a look at open source programs like 7zip or VeraCrypt.
    true dat

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motherless.com
    the activists behind such attacks are very determined, well funded and connected.
    as usual they are driven by deep hatred towards that which they do not understand, confuse fantasy with reality
    and believe in a cause of righteousness. they won't stop, ever. searching the web for motherless, you can easily find a bunch of blogs
    filled with joyous exclaims like "praise be!", when the site went down, as well as rallying cries to keep up the good fight,
    now more than ever. it is very unlikely to convince even one of them, that they are wrong. therefore it is necessary to speak up
    whenever possible, not to leave the narrative to them and convince as many of those wavering about what to think, as possible.
    democracy and freedom can only exist, if there is balance. it is a bloody fucking struggle, all the time.
    "Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise.
    Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…"

    (Winston S. Churchill, 11 November 1947)
    you may think my rant exaggerated, but this is the line in the sand. it is drawn anew, every day.
    you may think, that this is not the time or place for such speeches. I disagree. every time and place is as good as any to utter a strongly worded
    you shall not pass!🧙‍♂️ towards those trying to take away our freedoms.
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    >>25070

    Just in case someone would like to know a little bit more about the remark Churchill cited:
    https://quoteinvestigator.com/2023/12/08/democracy-worst/
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    >>25082
    great collection, thanks for that! I wrecked my brain, trying to boil the quintessence of all those down into a single sentence.
    Here's what I came up with:

    In the overwhelming number of occurrences, democracy is the least terrible form of Government out of all other forms that have been tried so far.

    It is terrible, but still the most dependable we came up with as yet.
    All other forms, that have been truly better (if any), were short-lived, brittle, vulnerable and far less dependable.
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    >>25070

    death forever. server seize by authority and probably now they track the uploader or idk. its really sick to see the people praise when they cant even see the line between real and fake. hurt my head.
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    I guess they fixed the rest of the worlds problems and disagreeable porn is the only thing left to worry about
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    >>25066
    >ultra ring wing groups
    lol
    The reason why the Dutch government is going after the servers is because our liberal/leftist media started an entire media campaign attacking the site. They stated that the site is misogynist and should be closed to protect women.
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    401632
    everytime i try to upload shit recently it get rejected, even there is no necro\dead\sleeping\hanging\exposed gore, just a drop of blood on pretty girl...
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    >>25229
    >The reason why ...
    that is true. sadly not a laughing matter, because the right-wing statement is in this case also true.
    on some matters the far left and right agree, because they are basically the same kind of fascist idiots,
    just in different coloring.
    if you take a deeper look into who finances such campaigns you'll find out, that the liberal media and
    ultra right groups pull together on this, giving even more reason to be concerned.
    motherless is back up, but it is more or less dead, all interesting content gone for good.
    damn Neo-puritans, right and left.
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    Dear god you muppets have the political understanding of a lettuce. It's not "left vs right" as you understand it, it's those with power ($) against us peasants. Unless you think the credit card companies are far left a lot of this is being driven by them and Motherless is just part of this puritan drive. This is about power and control, the internet was the last gasp of freedom but now the wealthy will control everything, mostly because numpties can't understand that rich people wanting to sell stuff to queer people doesn't make the far left.
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    >>25235
    uh-huh. speaking from the salad bar, I actually agree with your point in general. it's always about power and control, most of the times money as a means to achieve both.
    but in this case, as in many others, it's more complicated than just a secret cabal of illuminati trying to control everything.
    it stands to reason, that there is - statistically speaking - just as many persons among the extremely wealthy who are interested in gore and such, as there are among
    us peasants. of course, they don't need to resort to motherless etc. and could get their fix in other ways. but why would they have a reason to attack the site?
    simply out of spite wouldn't make sense, because it's bad for business.
    now, the credit card companies boycott a lot of fringe interests by not offering their services, because they fear to lose money in the main market.
    motherless does not take away from their market share, since there is a different kind of demand with no overlap. guro lovers will not turn to vanilla porn,
    just because a guro site gets taken down. ergo there is no money to be made by attacking the site directly. it would make much more sense, instead of trying to
    destroy that market, to get control over it in some way and make money, without letting customers in the main market know. this is, what the wealthy usually do, take over things and make a fuck-ton of money with it, thus gaining even more power, political influence and so on.
    therefore in this case the primary motivation appears to be religious zealousness (religion as well in the literal as in a broader sense, like the woke movement etc.).
    but yes, it is very much about power and control. the idea is, to force one singular, narrow view onto everybody else, by whatever means available,
    driven by self-righteousness and the belief to be "the good guys". one way to exercise power is, to get as many people to cry out in anger, as possible.
    that is how most movements have worked since the dawn of civilization. nowadays, making use of social media, faster and more powerful than ever.
    this is, when the foot-soldiers of the right and left come into play, mindlessly repeating phrases put into their mouths and believing to fight a good fight.
    based on emotion, not consideration. this has nothing to do with "right" and "left", even less with "right vs. left". both rather obsolete concepts anyway,
    that don't have much meaning anymore, if any. only the methods and motivations are as ancient as history itself. power, control, exercising both to get more of it.
    yes, banks, credit card companies and so forth do play an important role in the whole scenario, but in this case, it is not first and foremost about the money.
    it is about hating what is different from oneself, that which one does not understand and the attempt to get control over it, even eradicate it, using the power at hand.
    Almost all play this game in general, always. And some among the very rich and powerful play it with motherless and all sites like it, which is a cause for concern.
    My interpretation of it is: freedom of speech and thought under attack by power and control. I'm guessing that is not very far from what you're thinking.
    🥗 out.
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    >>25234
    >>25235
    >>25236
    You guys are all retards. This case has NOTHING to do with payment providers or the "illuminati". The servers were stationed in the Netherlands, some feminist journalists heard about it and decided to launch a huge media campaign to try to get the servers closed. This was done by a judge after pressure from the media, not Visa or Mastercard. Even today I saw a new post (just look up "rtlnieuws" on Instagram, that's our version of MSNBC), the website is already taken down and they're STILL writing hit pieces on it. This is because feminists/leftists hate men, hate straight male sexuality, and DESPISE violent sexual fantasies of White hetero men. Even other cases where sites are closed because of payment providers refusing to work with the sites is usually because feminist activists pressured them.
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    Any good alternatives?
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    Man they're still down :(((
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    On 21 July the Dutch police took the server down to 're-investigate' the complaints. Considering the millions of images, it may take a couple of days or more before they decide to let it come back. Don't bet on it.
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    Haven't found any reliable alternatives yet, has anyone else?
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    >>25368
    Nope, you can find the occasional vid here and there but it's all on websites I'd rather my PC avoid lol
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    Y'all suck ass not helping fellow perverts. SMH

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