>>261
I agree. I prefer oil/water paintings
https://files.catbox.moe/1ucsh7.jpg

>>250
Based.

We all know Onix and his little fanclub are closet pedos. They're always either pushing for it or finding lame excuses for this shit on the site.

Everything went downhill when the old admins/mods got lenient on pedo bs.

>>263
Cry moar. The majority of the userbase wants loli, bitch somewhere else.

>>264
This, I want lolis. 3DCG kids can go somewhere else far away.

If it's concern about morality the real guro boards are a trillion times worse, just for being real. Which was the main reason every previous iteration of gurochan never allowed real content, gurochan had always been clear to where the thick line between reality and fiction is. Which 3DCG will never be.

So if this new gurochan which allows real actual guro is seriously considering banning fictional material because "Many people find it quite disturbing." It's not only absolutely hypocritical it is also incredibly moronic.

The reason this iteration of gurochan is relatively dead compared to previous ones is because many old gurochaners still don't know it was revived, and many more gurochaners that do know it is back decided not to join due to the shady kolyma takeover and migrated to reddit.

That being said, 3DCG loli has always been 99% shit and the board would definitely be better without it, but that is just my subjective opinion, and that has never been a valid reason to ban something. If the reason is seriously a moral dilemma or because people feel "uncomfortable" on gurochan of all places (one iteration with REAL gore), then it is the wrong reason to ban it.

Morning
> We allow loli-guro, there is even an entire board. There is just a difference between loli-guro and loli-guro-3dcg or loli-3dcg.
> lolis are not banned, and that is not what is being proposed. lolis and 3dcg lolis are 2 very different categories.
> Again, "3D lolis" are the only thing we are discussing here.

Day
> We allow loli-guro, there is even an entire board. There is just a difference between loli-guro and loli-guro-lit or loli-lit.
> lolis are not banned, and that is not what is being proposed. lolis and lit lolis are 2 very different categories.
> Again, "lit lolis" are the only thing we are discussing here.

Evening
> We allow loli-guro, there is even an entire board. There is just a difference between loli-guro and western style drawn underage guro or western style drawn underage.
> lolis are not banned, and that is not what is being proposed. lolis and western style underage are 2 very different categories.
> Again, "western style underage" is the only thing we are discussing here.

Night
> We allow guro, there is even an entire board. There is just a difference between guro and loli guro or loli.
> guro is not banned, and that is not what is being proposed. guro and loli are 2 very different categories.
> Again, "loli" is the only thing we are discussing here.

Tomorrow
> We allow images, there is even an entire board. There is just a difference between images and guro images or guro
> images are not banned, and that is not what is being proposed. images and guro are 2 very different categories.
> Again, "guro" is the only thing we are discussing here.

>>266
what makes you think real gore is allowed on gurochan?

>>268
It isn't, but its sister site does allow real gore. And personally, I think we need gorechan, because most of the gore forums/sites are too politically charged. Does anyone access gorechan via Tor? If so, you torfags should make the site more active by advertising the onion link on the deep web necro fetish forums that still exist. That way, the board can get more activity, and that activity would be from people that aren't typical 4chan/goregrish assholes

>>268

It is part of the G3 nonsense. And don't even begin to pretend "It's another site", it is literally advertised as "3 as 1", it's pretty much DLC for gurochan. And even if it was its own thing, the point stands, the network already has no problem with content much worse than 3DCG loli that is both legally and morally ambiguous. If anything gorechan should be nuked before even beginning to talk about 3DCG regulations.

>>270
3dcg isnt being regulated due to legal or moral reasons, but because many gurochan users find certain 3dcg content to be repulsive. Gorechan is an entire different site, whether they are similar to gurochan or ran by the same person, when you go to gorechan you accept you are getting the whole package, when you go to gurochan, you shouldnt also have to see CP. Yes, i am calling realistic 3dcg CP because thats basically what it is.

I think the 3DCG videos are low effort, but if they modded the hacked video game models into a ROM hack/mod, or put their original 3D loli models in a doujin game they made, I don't think that should be banned. Fuck the people that get offended by CGI lolis though. They don't belong on gurochan if artwork/animations disturb them

>>271
Who care's if it's CP? It's not legally CP, that's all that matters.

>>271
If the problem is intolerance of certain users to certain types of content, k♡♡z promised to implement filters for that purpose to protect those with weak psyche. so this kind of discussion like here should even be happening.


Also, did anyone even cares to check 3dcg board before making statements about user preferences.
it looks like we have lots of people who are so enthusiastic to post complaints and demand to ban certain kinds of content but those same people do not seem even bothered to post any replies or content they do like.

For gurochan to be revived there have to be people like drabok who pots a considerable amount of content that is worth following otherwise gurochan has no reason to exist.
I am quite sure that if it is legally possible it would be an even better idea to move entirely to 3dcg content because 2D is pretty much dead at this day You will not be able to invite any 2d artists here because gurochan offers nothing for them 3d artists who make loli content don't have that much choice they can't sell their content either so there may be a lot of them willing to move here.
It would be even a good idea to move away from exclusive guro content for any original content because it does not make sense for an artist to post his works on different sites. everyone prefers to post everything in the same place and also most prefer to find everything in one place. the more content you have the more traffic you get and more attractive everything becomes.

>>274
>it looks like we have lots of people who are so enthusiastic to post complaints and demand to ban certain kinds of content but those same people do not seem even bothered to post any replies or content they do like.

This.

First let me commend the last couple of posts for giving actual thoughtful insight.

https://2ch.cx/src/1039.png

We are discussing the matter thoroughly thanks to the input in this thread, so we don't do anything hasty. As for now, nothing has been banned yet.

Some points to clarify:

-No one in the moderation team has a problem, morally or otherwise, with 3DCG content featuring kids. So the mere discussion of a potential ban doesn't mean that we are moralfags now.
-The main reason this issue is brought up is because when Gurochan came back, the first concern most people had is the 3DCG content and outright refused to come back, preferring places like r/guro or Discord.
-The bad publicity 3DCG content featuring kids gives Gurchan a slow start to capture both old and new users.
-Gorechan, despite being affiliated to Gurochan, serves as a containment zone for gore posters. The strict policy of no real life content in Gurochan or Lolisare.fun is still in place and enforced.
-Gurochan will no shift focus to 3DCG content exclusively. This is not negotiable.

>and many more gurochaners that do know it is back decided not to join due to the shady kolyma takeover

We lament that a hissy fit of an underage kid hurt Gurochan within the first week of its revival and we are aware of it. Let me personally reassure you, as someone who wasn't involved in the controversy or with Kolyma at the time, that a "shady takeover" is pretty far from the actual truth.

>>276
>-The main reason this issue is brought up is because when Gurochan came back, the first concern most people had is the 3DCG content and outright refused to come back, preferring places like r/guro or Discord.

Since the current version of GC has almost no loli 3d content even if it is not banned and the previous version was full of it and getting updates few times a week.
How it is possible that some people are refusing to come back for this reason? Who are those people?

Previous gurochan had many problems with loli content not only 3d but 2d as well, and the temporary ban was considered but every one of the admins of all previous gurochans were doing everything in their power to protect this content.
At this time it feels that loli content in general is not that welcome as it was before and the future is uncertain.


>-The bad publicity 3DCG content featuring kids gives Gurchan a slow start to capture both old and new users.
What exactly is the "business plan" to capture those old and new users?
why people should use GC rather than pixiv discord and other alternatives?


>-Gurochan will no shift focus to 3DCG content exclusively. This is not negotiable.
This is a bit unclear what do you mean "to 3dcg exclusively"
The fact is that in modern times 2d is dying in general. You don't need to shift to 3d exclusively but rather prepare that 3d is gaining a lot of popularity and attention.

>>277

>The fact is that in modern times 2d is dying in general

jesus christ are you an actual retard?

>>278
I don't think it is a good place to discuss that issue, but didn't you notice that even 2d looking pictures on pixiv are being produced using 3d methods?
Fewer and fewer people are actually drawing them by hand.

>>279
Give us a concrete example, please.

>>276
>The main reason this issue is brought up is because when Gurochan came back, the first concern most people had is the 3DCG content and outright refused to come back, preferring places like r/guro or Discord.

I think you might be getting your sources from a very niche group, you need to look beyond the usual circles, who are seriously these people refusing to come because of that content?
Most refuse to go back to 3dcg due to trolls like the EVCM fanboy which plagued the previous gurochan.

Also where do we draw the line? 3D models that look human? So stylized 3D lolis will still be acceptable? Will Chalk's and Wiltmask content still be allowed for not looking realistic enough or content like theirs will still get the axe?

I hate realistic 3DCG loli, I would definitely prefer it gone, It's a blight for the eyes for many people, me included, but I can see the slippery slope in banning it. So you don't want to ban it because it is amoral, but rather because a group of people is complaining? How is that a better reason if it is equally arbitrary?
So we ban 3D loli trash, the site gets more people for maybe a week or two, then "The group" suddenly decide they are also not ok with this, then not ok with that, what sort of guarantee are we offered that a year or two from now regular loli, fur or other content will not be pushed away by the same disgruntled people?

>>280
I think anon might be referring to guro content specifically, loli guro and guro is mostly 3DCG nowadays, think SFM, Koikatsu galleries, Honey Select Galleries and Poser works. The vast majority of guro/loli guro content today is made using one of those programs, compare it to the amount of guro content still produced in 2D and I can see how it looks like it is dying.
Just search R-18G on Pixiv, over half of it in the past few years is Koikatsu/HoneySelect/SFM/Poser/3DCG or very poorly drawn scribbles.

Regular loli and reghular 2D work is nowhere near being replaced by 3D yet, but guro content is pretty much dominated by 3D.

>>280
What do you mean? I can't post pictures here.
If you want to see an example of 3d pictures that look like 2d go to pixiv
MMD
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/84491746
Koikatsu!
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/88484338
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89246669

custom maid
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/84933559
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/83402960
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/78766891

some others
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/88632118

in some situations, it is not even clearly possible to tell if this is 2d or 3d because any reasonable artist will no longer do sketching by hand
software like Clip studio provides full functionality to do everything in 2d or 3d
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/search?word=3d&order=new
so even many drawn 2d characters are most likely 3d with some extra editing

So it is pretty much a matter of choice which software and models you use and you get anime or realistic looks
sometimes you can even make a drawn character that looks even more realistic than 3d
like this
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89364086
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/79171054
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/1227578

The people concerned about 3DCG kids were part of generation of Gurochan from around the time GurochanOP and Veiled were active. So they are pretty much familiar with every board and the content. Going from furries to other 3DCG enthusiasts.

In general terms, the more realistic it is, the worse. Wiltmask for instance will be tolerated and even encouraged, as well as Koikatsu, MMD, Gmod, etc creations. And to be frank, the last three examples are perfect to demonstrate areas where it is getting pushed pretty boldly, 3DCG or not.

We are aware that this decision unpopular to some and risky for us, because if we do the banning, we will push certain users out under the gamble of reeling some back in and help spread the word, but they might not because of the previous Kolyma drama. This is also why advertising gurochan in a decade full of galleries and discord is quite challenging, because people don't like shilling and also the drama was a hard blow to the imageboard.

And lastly, I will never get tired of repeating it. I, myself, have my own loli stash and have enjoyed some 3DCG material. The "slippery slope" of letting moralfags run the site is just that, a fallacy. Bringing the topic here, where these people will rarely bother to post, should be a tell sign.

>>283
>In general terms, the more realistic it is, the worse. Wiltmask for instance will be tolerated and even encouraged, as well as Koikatsu, MMD, Gmod, etc creations.

I can live with that.

> And to be frank, the last three examples are perfect to demonstrate areas where it is getting pushed pretty boldly, 3DCG or not.

You mean 89364086, 79171054 and 1227578? If so I'd definitely agree that it should not even be legal to begin with, but again, personal bias. If It'll bring people like GurochanOp and Veiled back it's worth the sacrifice, but even if the slippery slope seems like a fallacy to you now, I've seen other slopes being declared as such before and then gaining traction really fast, maybe not soon, but 1, 2 years from now, if this iteration of gurochan even makes it that far.

I think it would be way less worrisome if it was clearly defined what goes and what does not, perhaps even specifying which technologies would be discouraged, which I'm aware is not an easy task.

But since the site is dying anyway, if there is hope the regulation will bring back more people than it will drive away (Because it will push people away), perhaps it is worth it.

>>284
>But since the site is dying anyway
what are you talking about, fearmongerer?

The ability to hide threads (by clicking a button, or by adding words to a filter) will be added soon. Threads you filter or hide will be hidden even when you refresh the pages, if you clear your cache and cookies then the hidden threads will appear again. This feature will be implemented within the next 24~ hours. People who wish to see this content can see it, and those who do not can block it from being shown to them. We hope that this solution appeases both sides.

Any questions?

>>286
Good job finding a non-drastic solution, but I hope you realize there really is no appeasing the fags at r/guro or any of the various discords filled with new wave underage self-cutter chicks with my melody icons.

>>287
this. modern "guro fans" - if you can even call them that, are not like they were.

>>286
Seems like a reasonable solution.

I say we keep the loli\shota\cub 3D allowed, they're just polygons or whatever, not real.

Screw the party poopers

>muh moralfags
The problem is not moralfagging, you imbeciles. The problem is "loli" 3dcg always creeps into raw pedo-3dcg, completely unrelated to guro whatsoever over time.

Toddlers doing bdsm is just not guro. Period.

>B-b-but there's 2 drops of blood here and there.
This is gurochan. Stop playing dumb.

Also, posting deliberately realistic and accurate 3D underage is asking for trouble. This isn't the same as posting 3d "anime" lolis which, at least, are stylized enough to get the "muh art" excuse.

But hey! If you guys *really* want this kind of stuff, so be it! This site's reputation somehow managed to get even worse with the "pedo-site" moniker lately, all thanks to you. But don't fucking cry me a river if it comes back to you, or even if this website gets shutdown again.

>>295
>The problem is "loli" 3dcg always creeps into raw pedo-3dcg, completely unrelated to guro whatsoever over time.

Why do you think it is a problem at all?
naturally, if someone is posting their own original content it is expected to be all in one place. It would be dumb idea to post guro pictures in one place and non guro in another.

>Toddlers doing bdsm is just not guro. Period.
Who made you an authority to decide that?


>Also, posting deliberately realistic and accurate 3D underage is asking for trouble. This isn't the same as posting 3d "anime" lolis which, at least, are stylized enough to get the "muh art" excuse.

It is very interesting where did you see any of such "realistic and accurate" 3d content. As much as I know almost all 3d content in existence is pretty easy to distinguish from the real. You need to be extremely autistic not to see the difference.

>But hey! If you guys *really* want this kind of stuff, so be it! This site's reputation somehow managed to get even worse with the "pedo-site" moniker lately, all thanks to you.

Yeah, toddlers getting torn in pieces - totally ok. Same toddlers doing BDSM - oh no! that's going to damage site reputation LOL


If something is going to damage the reputation is precisely attempt to make strict policies what is allowed and what not because at the moment you start judging the content you become responsible for all the content which you have on the site.

Y'know I think I've only seen about five or less threads with CGI lolis in them, and a lot of that stuff is incredibly tame. I wish the fetish artists that draw/model lolicon here would delve deeper into fetishes. Outside of guro, I'm personally a fan of lolis vomiting at school, but I've only seen a few images that appease that kink on the vomitlove booru and maybe atf

Why not compromise on the issue? Create a 3DCG section to the loliboard and only allow the content over there.

>>300
The compromise which was promised was that k♡♡z will add a function to hide loli threads which should please everyone.
In fact I think it can even go further and those threads could be hidden by default unless enabled in the settings not to irritate some random moral crusaders who may stumble on the gurochan.

>>306
That's a good and probably the ideal solution, but we should also consider this sites software is home-made, thus developing such feature can be some SRS work

>>307
It is not that much work and k♡♡z already did way more complex work anyway.
Although I am not yet sure how one is supposed to tag the thread rather than just one post, or thread will be hidden if it contains at least one tag?

>>306
>>307
>>308
The feature is a little complicated to make.. but still is on the way. Give us a bit.

>>308
Still probably not so easy to do in one day, but it's not my expertise to to speak. If the filter is going to be tag based, I think it should hide the entire thread if the OP post has a blacklisted tag, and in each post with the tag at visible threads. This would require people to start image dumping threads with tamer OP image (so it wouldn't affect the entire thread), but overall, it would satisfy everyone + encourage usage of tags, which I find a unique and very helpful feature.

>>309
I loaded this tab before you posting, take your time and good luck! It's not a hurry anyways, and thank you for actually caring for our opinions. That's a novelty from Gurochan, I appreciate your attention

The filter has been implimented on all the imageboards. Please click the [F] to hide posts.

In addition, you can use set "filtered words" in your settings, to pre-hide any posts that contain strings you dont like. Proper regex is required.

What's the problem to divide loli-3DCG and non-loli-3DCG between different boards?

This is why the loliboard exists is it not? Move them there.

>>383

And what you will do with mixed type content which has both loli and non loli?
I have a better idea, make a separate board for loli haters LOL
and then we will see how much content it will have.
we already have universal 3d board, and I am quite sure none of the loli fans will complain that non loli content is posted there those who don't like it can have their own place.

cosidering that updates on this site happen once a week at best making more boards means more hassle checking for updates.

I think it may be even better idea to make a combined version of all boards so that every update will be listed

>>385

>And what you will do with mixed type content which has both loli and non loli?

That also would go to the loli board. Since the filter is implemented it's a moot point, but I feel like this is reasonable. This is why there's a loli board to begin with, to contain any content the unarguably features loli, so it doesn't make sense why 3dcg loli is an exception.

>>388
3DCG is a controversial interest, where there are many haters of it. I think that's why it's banned on loliboard, which I think is pretty reasonable. What would be better is, properly using tags in FAQ so filter module would be more effective - especially on /3DCG/.

>>388
So in other words, like I said before , loli board is just plain "everything board" and non loli board board with extra limitations?

In that case what is the point to post things on non loli board at all? If it has less traffic and more limitations?

The whole idea is mixing both things together and not differentiating between loli and non loli stuff at all.

I think current loli and /lg/ boards here are absolutely useless create confusion and reduces traffic.
It would be much better to post everything on he single board and this content filter could be later used to separate things into different categories.

>>389
Oh don't worry there are plenty of haters for 2d lolis and even for text stories featuring underage characters even in the background.
Pretty much all guro forums will ban you if you even mention anyone underage.
Some people just hate that idea regardless of how it is presented.

3dcg is of course most extreme of them all, but it is not special in any way a and it is not that different from 2d or text content in how it is perceived. It is not like 3dcg can be at least remotely realistic anyway.

>>227
Lolis are one of the gurochan staples! They should remain there and since this site have a global audience I see no reason why they should not remain there for all to enjoy.
If some people don't like them they should skip them and if they are not allowed to view them then they should not see them, or use a proxy:P! Enough said! Keep calm and enjoy lolis!

Use the filter function to blot out posts or threads you dont like. Or filter words altogether with regex