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Aoi Hikari
2016/09/29
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>>7289
Yeah, to think of it, in the world I described similar things would happen outside school. If death by going to a termination center is totally casual, there's no reason why death by accident would be viewed any different. Just as you said, death by itself isn't viewed as good or bad. So while normally children wouldn't purposefully seek it (expect when they purpousfully go to a termination center) they won't purpousfully try to avoid it either. Adults are another thing though: a child dying is considered contributing to the sosciety, an adult dying, while he has such freedom, is considered taking away from sosciety, so a good coscnious citizen would try to avoid death at adult age, not because they have any fear of death, but because it would be a negative contribution to the sosciety. So, for example, one would see no reason to hesitate if they can save a more valuable member(s) of sosciety with their own life.
But who cares for adults, let's return to the children. Let's imagine a group of chilren is playing in the river and one of them starts drowning. The way I imagine this world works is: the others would see no reason to save the drowning child unless that child explicitly calls for help (or maybe in the previous talk they told someone they want to make in into adulthood), and the child itself whould normally not see any reason to call for help either. They woudn't care if they make it into adulthood or not, unless they have a specific aspiration to make it, which is not common, especially in younger children. If they do though, it's totally their right to avoid danger and expect others to save their life (even if by the cost of several lives of those children who don't have such an aspiration) as long as those others are properly informed of them having such an aspiration. Basically, if they've already made a choise they want to make it into adulthood, their life is considered almost as valable as that of an adult.
So, say a mother of two comes home and discovered one of their children has killed the other during some children game. The only thing she would scond them for is all the mess they made in the house with blood and such.
And I don't like it how you put it "they brainwashed everyone that death is great". First of all it's not brainwashing, it's just the norm in this sosciety, and the lectures are, as I mentioned, just a formality, since everyone know it anyway. When a cop comes to a school and tells children how they should only cross the road on green light, it's not brainwashing. Second, they don't think death is great, in fact they don't think of it at all. As you yourself put it later: it's neither good or bad. It's not something one would purpousfully seek, but also not something one would purpousfully avoid (at least as long as it comes to children). If you want, you can consider it to be somewhat like abortion, only instead of killing a child before it's even born without asking it's own oppinion, you let that child reach a more conscious school age and then let them decide by themselves. By the morals of that world, this way is more humane.
Anyway, not criticizing your ideas or something, just pointing out differences between yours and mine and also expanding a bit on mine.
a bit on castration
While I'm not generally into that, lately I've been thinking I could enjoy a story about a castration/nullification perfomed casually. Like a world where every little boy can just come to the clinic and ask to be nullified just because he doesn't like the aesthetics of their genitals and would rather be nice and smooth. Or maybe it's not the aesthetics, but comfort: he doesn't like something dangling between his legs and being pressed inside his pants. Or he was punched in his balls and it was painful, so he consideres not having balls to be a good method to prevent being kicked in them. Or he doesn't want to have balls becaues he doesn't want the balls think for him instead of his brain, he thinks of it as just a nuisance. Or he just does in on a whim, he was walking by, saw the clinic offering castration service and thought why not. Anyway, the boy wants it on his own, and it's not seen as a big deal. Also, whatever the reason, by the logic of this world he would see no reason to regret it at any point in his subsequent life. Nor does the sosciety (including the boy's parents who might only learn about it post factum) see anything wrong with it.
Also, it doesn't have to be a clinic. Maybe, just like you described, it can be a part of kids playing doctor. Or, as I described in one of my ideas for Kagamine Len and Rin: as twins they don't like the idea that pubery would make them look less similar, so Len asks Rin to castrate him so that he's as smooth as her, and she is happy to oblidge. In return she asks him to cut off her breasts so they don't grow bigger than his chest, and he is happy to retrun the favour. Or it can be the other way around where Len cuts Rin's breasts first and she returns the favour by nullifying him. Anyway the point is it is something they both want themselves, not something forced or whatever. Also doing these thing to each other they don't feel they deprive each other of something, but rather doing a favour for their beloved twin. And also that it is in no way something wrong for them to do. When parents learn what they have done to each other and why, they would only admire how much the twins love each other, and consider any harm to be done.
Speaking of the Kagamine twins, just about a week ago or so I stubled upon this pictrue:
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2573025
(Rin crashing Len's balls with her hand in order to make him into a castrato [a castrated singer], also promices to cut off his dick later)
The only thing I don't like about this picture is how it looks like Rin is forcing in on Len and enjoying his pain. But with them being singers, having Rin castrate Len for the sake of making him into a castrato makes perfect sense as a premice for a castration story. Only I imagine such a story with Len himself wanting to become a castrado or at least seeing nothing wrong with it ("All it takes to do is cut off my balls? Sure, why not") and Rin happy to castrate him not because she enjoys him suffering, but because she feels giving, not depriving him of anything (and Len takes it the same way too, thankful to her for doing it for his sake). Kinda like in my short Atofellatio story, only she cuts his balls, not his head. And by analogy with that story it can work as a surprise too: "What have you done, Rin?" "I've cut your balls off, Len" "That I can see, but why?" "Oh, don't you know, it would prevent your voice from breaking and make you into an excellent singet" "Oh, so that's how it is, thank you, Rin, I don't know how I can express my gratitude" "Just sing for me in your castrato voice, I need nothing else to be happy". Though I don't think how this can work without Len being uncoscous durign the process itself, and I kinda don't want him to miss it. So in the end, if I were writing this, I would probably start with a casual conversation between the twins about music and singing and somehow it gets to the topic of voice breaking and castration being able to prevent it (also if I were writing it, I would try to make it a spin-off or Innocence, same as Autofellatio) and than I would try to make a transition to "Rin should castrate Len" topic as natural and casual as possible, aiming for it not being possible to say if the idea was proposed by Rin or Len, it was just flowing in the air and both twins followed a natural flow of conversation. I say 'try' because I'm not sure if I actually can do in it such a way though. But anyway, as Rin castrates Len, both consider it a good thing that would make Len into a great singer, so Len is and will always be grateful to his sister for giving him the castrato voice, and Rin is and will always be happy that she was able to give him that great voice.
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