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>>We might be two stubborn donkeys, but the difference is that I don't lecture you on what actually happens in your stories.

Actually you did lecture me too about the vulgarity in one of my stories :)
and In fact I woud be even happy to listen to your request if they were not so fundamentally opposite to the entire story idea. which is exactly to show maximum of vulgarity at that time.


>He isn't just lying. He's lying in your face about the things you did or didn't say. When he's so confidently tells "you said that yourself" you can't help but start wondering if you might have actually said that. And that's the part where he makes you doubt your sanity.

where I am lying?
I just placed the quote of your on text above and followed with my explanation How that can be lying?

>Why are you so blatantly ignoring the part where L specifically said what levels of pressure are okay with him and what aren't?

Because it doesn't matter what level, it is still nonconsensual by definition

>How are you bringing up autism in any conversation
because beings traigtforwad and wanting other people to be straightforward is defining characteristic of autistic people.
Normal people rather prefer to talk in hints, even when they deny it

>With your lack of comprehension of people you're not in a position to talk on behalf of the majority.
how is the fact that you want sweet and majority don't want sweet is related to my comprehension?

>I want sweet, yes, but I wouldn't have called my own thing sickening, unless you somehow coerced me with weird phrasing on your end. What I might have said is that some people I know would find it sickening. That neither equates to majority not to my own assessment.

I even checked my old mail mail and found exact line
>Why do you need the characters to suffer? I mean, if you prefer it that way, that's your right, but just because my taste differs doesn't make me wrong.
It's called fluff. It's a thing. It's supposed to be so sweet it causes diabetes.
https://fanlore.org/wiki/Fluff
yes maybe you did not use word sickening you used word diabetes which is to me same thing

>then maybe you should stop
and I will stop if he wants me to stop I think i already know everything I need about him and you and there is no point if any further argument you both described your stance
i am not going to suggest things that I know are unacceptable to you
maybe I will comment about something I like and thats all.

>I fail to see how you call my world "this horrible world of death" when your world is "like in GTA or DOOM".
death is stagnation life is action and constant change
there is even one fairytale where mother asked a fairy to make her baby never feel bad again and she found it dead
and also there is one funny song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fczjCi73So8
and here is the scariest horror movie ever hidden under the beautiful scenery as fluff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3_dBxBi84I

>It's not 2+2=5, it's 2+2=22.
it does not mattetr it is still bulshit
twisted logic is when you come to the right answer in the wrong way

>In my other stories the logic is even more sound. Like in "Die Young" Len argues that while dying is scary, dying later in life would only be more scary, and since they have to die sooner or later anyway, better die sooner while it's not yet as scary. Which part of this is "2+2=5"? There's none of that. In fact, it's so logical it sometimes scares me how it borders on actually making sense in real life.

Yes exactly. it does make sense you screwed up and made this story completely rational and you got scared by your own story because it makes sense. exactly like I was saying before "it should be rather said he is repulsed by rationality".
and you got much better now and don't make mistakes like that anymore.

>Again, there is no "2+2=5" logic here, only "2+2=22" logic. It doesn't really make sense, but it also kind of does. Twisted logic like that is one type of incongruity that is often used in humor. For example:

No it is not used in humor it is used for scams

>Now that's sophistic (which I guess is better than gaslighting). It's not a valid proof, so in that sense it's not a proof, but it's also an invalid proof, so a kind of proof after all.
Invalid proof is not a proof its is bullshit it has no value of any kind.
I suppose this is the part where we will never get long as I am never going to accept the idea that invalid proof has any kind of value I suppose this is how any rational person will behave seeing that 2+2=22 they will say are you stupid? not haha how funny
yes under some situations we can play along with invalid profs if the intent is to get the desired result.

>Wow, what a blatant example of gaslighting, saying I can't make up evil scenarios in response to the section where I make up exactly one like that. Here, I'll remind you, it was this one:

OK, i have to admit that this time this line slipped through my eyes

>The reason Rin can't just go and steal Len's ice cream isn't because I can't tolerate any conflict, but because it would make no sense neither for the characters nor for the genre. At least she must be stealing it as a park of some more elaborate prank, and not just because you like characters being evil for no reason.

Do you have any stories where they do a prank of some sort with intention to slightly hurt each other?

>Show me where did you say exactly "If the stories used the real life logic of why people kill themselves, they would become tragic instead of fun stories." Even in the very next sentence you say the exact opposite when you say they would only become tragic for me, but not anyone else.

exactly I was saying that they become tragic for YOU not for anyone else and of course I did not say it as exact same sentence
so what is your point?

>How comes only your scenarios are in another world and are to be viewed from that perspective, while whenever you talk about mine you're judging them from the perspective of real life logic?

I never judged anything from perspective of real life fiction is judged by the rules of the same fiction as if writer is some god who has power to create any word they want with any rules in it. but that world has to be consistent to it's own rules. and this is the problem not only for fetish guro porn but for multimillion Hollywood movies that sometimes have less logic than your stories with the only benefit that they are not trying to explain how idiotic they are but at least give audience some ability to ignore plot holes and other nonsense.

>Now you're showing your lack of comprehension of how other people would perceive your words. Nobody would think you're crazy for your claim that you want to jump from the bridge. They would think you're depressed and suicidal, probably suffered something tragic that broke you. Now, if you say you're jumping from the bridge not because you're suicidal, but to get on the ground, that's where people ask you "are you crazy or just plain stupid?" And the same if you say you want to jump to cross it. They really wouldn't see any difference. You're still jumping from the bridge for a nonsensical reason.

It does not matter how other people will judge those words because we are talking about universal logic only

If i say I want X then i just want X there is no reason why I want it I just want it end of discussion In this situation i just want jump from the bridge not because i am suicidal or because I wast to get down or because of any other reason i just want to jump down for no reason at all. same as why someone with OCD wants to wash his hands

If I say I want X and do Y to get it then it can be disused if Y is the optimal way to get X and do cost benefit analysis Like jumping down will definitely bring me to the destination in the most efficient way besides the only problem that i will be splattered tough decision.

And if I decide to do Z to get X where obviously Z will not going to give me what I want then I am stupid

In your situation getting her heart stuffed in the pussy will not make her concentrate so the action is stupid.
all intermediate steps do not matter. thast it You will never convince me that bulshit is a proof or bad wrong explanation is still and explanation, no it is not. If it is wrong then it does not count. same as presenting wrong evidence does not count wrong evidence is same as no evidence
the same problem is not only with your stories but with big hollywood
and I would suggest to you to at least omit that explanation so that readers will make their own reasons
like in that marina story the real reason why she wasnt that is because she wants to die in a funny way as prank
and when her friend is asking questions she just insults his intelligence basically saying "Are you stupid just do what I told you" or mocks the teacher by thinking you want me to concentrate? I will concentrate

But this works best if you manage convince someone to follow this logic thereby making them look stupid.

ike in your cheese example if you managed someone follow that logic in the end the verdict woud be "Haha what an idiot"