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    I see women as fuckmeat, regardless of race or age, I just think every woman must be slave to males. Am I the only one?
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    When I'm horny I want to be objectified completely 9 times out of 10. But all women, submissive or not, deserve to be treated the same as men. Even when I'm feeling submissive I deserve decency and respect.
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    Woman are fuckmeat and would love to rape as many as I could. All woman need to get fucked
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    >>5301

    Damn straight. My personal fantasy world of treating women as subhuman objects is just that, fantasy. I want to hurt them, degrade them, deny them, and abuse them, but only if they're willing.

    That some people actually see the real world the way I see my fantasy world is, frankly, rather disturbing.
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    When I think about it, seems to me like all humans are meat. I can't buy into ideologies that elevate one group of humans above another on the basis of some arbitrary criteria. Just seems like a thin rationalization for ego stroking.

    As a fantasy, I'm not into "women as fuckmeat". You can't meaningfully rape or torture fuckmeat, and above all, I'm into the suffering of women, not their subjugation. The suffering of a fully-realized human being with rights, education, personality, hopes and dreams is deeper and more gratifying than the suffering of someone who's already been relegated to second class status.
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    As a lolicon, i only like this as a fantasy. This shit shouldnt be more than fantasy. But you cant do this at real world.

    Go fuck yourself if you see this more than a fantasy, faggot.

    I know here we all emphasise a difference between fantasy and reality, but I have a hard time really setting it apart like that and it makes me feel like a terrible human being.

    Maybe you want to be raped or tortured, maybe you want to be the one raping and torturing, maybe you just wanna kidnap a little girl, tie her down and take a dump on her while she screams and cries. Either way to some degree we're all aware of the separation between fantasy and reality, myself included, but... I can't help but feel a pang of envy hearing about real guro things people have experienced that are the things I'm into. I hate it. I hate that I live for imagining these things and pretending they're real.

    And it's disgusting because I know those things would be terrible or traumatic in real life but it makes me so angry!

    For me I feel like part of my problem is that my guro interests tie into my self esteem a bit. Does anybody else feel this way?
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    >>7002
    It seems this is exactly the planet they belong on, as horrifying as it can be.
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    Mmmm..No not really.

    I'm a victim in my fantasies. I don't want to actually be a victim. How would I continue to get off to the thought of being destroyed if I were already dead? It kind of, well literally, it kills the whole fetish.

    If someone wants to go through with it, power to them. I'm happy in my fantasy world. :)
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    >>7000
    This is a really healthy attitude about things and one I share.

    I really enjoy hurting the ever-loving shit out of people.

    I also like making my partners cum, and cum, and come back for more.

    There's also a huge line between pain & damage/injury. Pain can be fun. Injury can be crippling.

    And then there's the discussion about Consent. That's HUGE.

    I really recommend looking into the BDSM community. There are people in it who are into raping people or being raped, cutting and being cut, blood play of various levels and, of course, being beaten black & blue with a range of implements.


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    Some of us were born with minds made for an older, crueler world. Hard to not be jealous of those who lived in a time when there was no accountability, no justice, only violent competition and raw force in nature.
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    >>5279
    Don't be jealous of coroners. A buddy of mine got a job at a morgue for the same reasons, to handle the bodies of attractive women but all he got was mostly old people of natural causes or in one case, a body so decomposed it was literally shoveled into a box. He lamented about how he never had a stripper or attractive woman die when he worked there, so even if you had that job, there may be the chance that you never get to experience it anyways (depending on your region).

    I'm a little jealous of those that are boring and vanilla. It's those people who have a normal life where their "bad dream" is just endlessly falling, and not having their throat slashed open, shot and waking up in pain. My mind it terrifying and I would be in prison if I didn't have an iron will. I would love to do the things I think about and fantasize but I realize that it is something that will ruin my life and put me behind bars. I don't like the idea of imprisonment or something preventing me from living any semblance of a "normal" life. Having knee jerk reactions of suicide and murder to the most mundane events is tiring and I'm envious of those whose only worries are what they will eat for breakfast in the morning. Although there will always be a part of me that's like "ah... I wish I was the one that slashed her open", it's the normalcy that I truly envy.

    Anyone ever heard of "deepfakes"? They were huge on Reddit a few months back. I went down the rabbit hole and found this: /r/MediaSynthesis/

    I feel kind of bad for commission artists, but this is actually really huge news because it means that people with no art skills are about to be able to create whatever the hell they want in whatever artstyle they want, possibly as soon as early next decade.

    Think about what possibilities that opens up. One of the biggest limiting factors for guro right now is that either you can't draw your fantasies well or people who can draw refuse to draw it or you're too embarrassed to ask because of the subject matter in my case. Or maybe you just can't afford it. This changes everything in that regard.
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    I am surprised no rape or snuff deepfakes have surfaced but please link if you have some
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    Well, I don't think we need to wait for the next decade we can do it already for quite some time if you want artwork created by people with no drawing skills just visit 3D board here.

    in theory, you can flatten 3d into 2d somewhat

    creating whatever you want is a bit more tricky than just using a computer because when you draw in 2d you actually defy reality and your images kinda lack logic. when you do it in 3d you notice that sometimes you just cant do what you want because of plain logic limitations

    also when making 3d content hardest thing is to explain to the computer what you want like where you want to have each finger and even worse if you wasnt to make something gorey with modified body
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    The majority of my fantasies involve myself dying. The biggest way for me to cope with everything is the thought about my own death. I try to visualize my body decomposing over time in different environments. What happens to those around me, how I died. Was it in an accident, murder? Or finally ate the bullet. Contemplate how long it takes for me to be discovered in the latter case. Most of the fantasies that involve murder just end up in my dreams on their own although now my own death fills my dreams again.... Oddly enough, I feel the most well rested and relaxed when I wake up from such dreams. Evidence, no doubt, that I'm not right upstairs.

    Of course, if someone should make me mad enough I drift to fantasies of slow torture, starting at how I would get them alone, what I need, all the way to how to dispose. Naturally I won't do anything I think of. I enjoy being on this side of prison walls too much.

    Unlike some of you, no sense of morality plays a role in my mind.

    sorry for the slow moderation, currently i believe im the only one taking this seriously, and even then the amount of posts is hard to keep up with.

    i will try to have this problem resolved asap.

    Admins are mia, and I never see other people checking this site.

    Message to enc or ryo: Get on IRC, I refuse to be the only one keeping an eye on the site. I may love this community, but I'm not the owner, that is your job, so please take responsibility and stop slacking. More moderators, better spam detection, anything. This current system is ridiculous and I'm quickly getting sick of this constantly happening.

    Oh and another thing, how am I supposed to do this when you removed the fucking report system?

    Update: Admins back, still the only mod, tools still missing, but things are going to improve soon.

    Srsly stfu pls.

    It's storming here. I love it. I love a lot of things, it's a cool universe. But I'm also full of hate. Sometimes, I feel guilty, too. But not over porn, no matter how violent or depraved.

    You're not a child, stop feeling bad about it. I say this woth good intentions, not to talk down to you, though I'll admit to not being the best... diplomat.

    Something like snuff or child porn, if you're supporting that, even indirectly, sure feel bad and stop. At least try to stop. Support ways to end all that horror. If you care to, which if something in you makes you feel bad, you do on some level.


    If you don't feel bad about it, this message isn't for you. Poopy.
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    >>7138
    >>I'm very empathic, but I can't do this. My GF like risky sex in public, but it's impossible for me, to feel the same. I don't find that appealing at all. If something isn't connected to my initial kinks, I can't find that hot.
    Were you able to do 180 degrees spin with empathy about something fundamental, basic?

    well that the whole idea that if you are not interested in risky public sex your girlfriend is interested, so you can do something like putting the remote controlled vibrator in her and make her do risky things while you yourself stay safe and do nothing of that.

    Then, you go outside and you see her arousal and feel aroused yourself using her as a proxy while you yourself may have zero interest in that thing and stay safe.
    but when you do that several times or just imagine doing that to someone imagining how that person will feel you may even start liking it done to you as well.
    funny thing is that you have no clue how it feels or what it is, but you just know that this is something that must feel good and your fantasy will do the rest of the work. As If you use a vibrator on your girfriend you definitely cannot know how does it feels but you see her expressions you see her pleasure and you know that it must be good when that is done to you.

    I kinda disagree with your idea of fetish origins, because from my own experience and from what other people say this is different.
    one interesting thing is that you do not need any traumas to like or dislike things. you simply copy likes or dislikes of other people in your childhood.


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    >>7139
    I've told her few months ago, that I'm planning to buy Hitachi Magic Wand and Bullut Vibrator, and I've got a big NOPE as a response;).

    I mean yes, you don't need anything spectacular, violent or painful. All it takes is ultimately just one stimulus. Like in those examples you provided. I totally agree with that part.

    But getting new fetishes due to fantasizing how good something is, looks like reversed behavioral therapy for curing homosexuality or that one from Clockwork Orange. I think, there needs to be already some fundation for new kink to appear. Like progression from point A to point B. Some connection. I don't see plausible getting, for example, guro fetish out of blue. Without finding it's elements interesting before. That's my point. There must be something linking your adult perversions with each other and/or with childhood fascinations.

    My mother is quite progressive, so I had comic book about sex'n'stuff when I was like 12-13, and I even saw transection image of intercourse in encyclopedia when I was younger, but just like you, I didn't know what I was doing. I think this is normal. Most guys I know had weir experiments with masturbation. One even damaged his dick pretty badly.
    Or perhaps that was normal. Nowadays every kid can look things up on the web.

    I did not said, you want to force kids to sex, but I feel, like even encuoraging them to try, can lead to shaming ones, who aren't ready yet. Just like with your examples about small, meaningless remarks leading to developing prejudice, sympathy or antypathy towards someone or something.
    Teaching them stuff, and removing moral obstacles would be enough in my opinion.


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    >>7140
    Well, why do you think you can't develop fetish out of nothing?

    Speaking about myself I had absolutely no interest in scat or pee in my childhood or anything anal at all also I was quite homophobic. but now I like that stuff and I could even consider myself bisexual.
    In the same way, I had no interest in BDSM I was not even looking to bdsm pictures on the internet in the beginning
    In fact, I was mostly interested in big breasts at first but now lolis are preferable (even if some time ago I hardly could imagine myself being interested in such thing.)

    I can remember being interested in guro from quite early time and I still don't even know why but most of my current interests were developed later and when I got interested in roleplaying even more stuff was added to my list.

    I also agree that children should not be pushed or demanded to have sex (and actually not even told how to do that because you derive them from lost of fun to discover it on their own)
    but this CP ban is nothing else than denying them right to do it when they want it themselves. the real reason why it is forbidden is not to protect children but to prevent them finding out about that kind of pleasure.
    Children are routinely beaten tortured and abused in the families but this is totally ok, however, if in some family child is actually told about pleasures of sex those parents will be sent to jail because other parents are horrified that this child will teach their children about that as well.


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    I don't feel guilty, just frustrated and alienated. It's difficult as hell to find the sort of material I crave, and this in turn makes me question why I crave it.
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    Frustrated and alienated I get. I'm not a very social person by nature, in fact I find social interaction with most people tedious. Consequently I don't come across many potential partners let alone people with similar kinks. Even on sites like DFN I find it difficult to mesh with people.

    And the cravings, boy I know what you mean. Or at least I think I do. Even on the vanilla end of the spectrum I can't find simple things like straight slave girls forced into degrading lesbian sex, or a girl being cuckqueaned by a cruel tgirl who verbally humiliates her over how she's an inferior woman to someone who has a dick.

    I just did part of my fetish, I want to be cut in half and live so I can play with my pussy without feeling it, so I used anesthais and I played with my pussy can't feeling pleasure but my tits was good
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    Wow thats hot, I want to do that! How did it feel ? Could you do whatever you wanted to it and there was no response ?
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    I've tried this a few times after accidentally sleeping on my own hand, or while on oral anesthetics after a dental visit and sucking on my own nipples. It's fun, but not that fun. pretty much what it feels like to have anyone else doing it, but with more control, haha.

    So, that used to be something that would get you banned for an amount of time.

    I visit this site every once in a while, not as much as I used to and I noticed a few RL pics.

    Did the rules change or are the mods becoming more lax? I know with the dolcettgirls site they allow RL pics and its a common thing there, but again, just wasnt sure if there is a rule change or if the mods are MIA?

    Can someone clarify?
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    >>7145

    Please harrass this awful SJW girl!!!, post in requests.

    and this has been allowed up for close to a month?>>7145
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    The mods are mostly MIA, and if you read that post you'd know that whoever posted it was a retard who doesn't know what this site is supposed to be
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    I have seen some around as well, there also people trying to sell snuff pic which I think must be some kind of scammer. Where can I donate to keep the mods doing better job? I need this site or else I don't have a place to put my gallery, this place is right at home for us artist doing guro stuffs.
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    >>7148

    i know sites like dolcettgirls have RL pics and dont seem to have a problem. and with everything happening with the cannibal cop case being overturned for the moment I think gurochan should be ok.

    Its just different from the site it used to be. I personally am ok with RL pics as long as no RL info is posted along with it. Keep it fantasy and we should be ok, but, I dunno.
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    DGF et al don't allow sexualized characters under 18, though. Isn't this potential combination the reason for that rule here?

    What do you think of the reputation of the board out side of the guro community. The only no guro websites I know that even say we exist is Urban dictionary, tv tropes and encyclopedia dramatic-a. And they mostly say we’re pretty shit.
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    For all I care they could put me on a stake and burn me for my fetishes.
    No srsly, why don't people do this anymore?!
    OY, COM'ERE AND BURN ME FO FOCKS SAKE <3
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    We are brought up on reddit /r/guro in a neutral/positive way. I'd say most have never heard of this site, so there arent many opinions.
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    >>7077
    Aww ( ◠‿◠ )
    Couldn’t have said it better myself lol
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    I'm not so sure most people know we exist.

    I've confessed my fetish to a hand full of friends (yeah, I don't know, bad idea?)... not in great detail, but "enough." I'd lead with "my fetishes are fucked up," and they'd shrug it off and I'd reiterate, "no, you don't understand...

    And your average vanilla person is gonna think, okay maybe BDSM, maybe some emphasis on the S&M. And you tell them "It's stuff you probably couldn't or shouldn't do IRL," and they'll think of some of the crazy stuff on deviantArt like inflation, and you say "guro" and they say what, "like, gore, but eroticized." Suffice to say, you end up having to explain it.

    If they respect you enough, it's "okay, i accept you, it's just not my thing." Or they try to pretend it's not so bad until you show them some shit and then, "Okay yeah no."

    Presumably, most people, IF they knew about us, wouldn't like us very much. Fortunately, most seem to try not to even think that people like us exist. It's like having a rape fetish. It's insanely common, yet I tell someone about it and "wait, so I'm worried about you, are you actually gonna try to go out and, you know...get...you know, raped?"

    People really don't get it.
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    Most forums I go to, people don't know guro exists, and are disgusted and shocked to find out. It rarely gets as far as them learning about gurochan.

    I would love to see my bitch sister in a horror movie. Does that make me a bad brother?
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    >>7118
    4 digit code?
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    #4554
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    >>7120
    Ok didnt go through. Add me
    StoneyHaze#5314
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    >>7121
    Ok. Will do in the morning ok
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    >>7121
    Alright I added you. So when ever your online next

    Just discovered exhentai any good large insertion stuff thats not on regular ehentai some of it is rather difficult to find
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    Exhentai only has loli stuff which is not available on public site
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    there's a tag for it on exhentai, which is just "large insertions." there are loads of good large insertion works there.

    I like guro and I fap to it allot (probably too much) but when it comes to real life gore I dont feel anything.
    NADA

    Am I missing something?
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    >>7069
    We even don't need to go that deep. Things like people trying to put their intestines back inside, shot in the head teen prostitutes in favelas or stabbed to death ex-gfs in Korea are sad no matter of interpretation. And fapping to that is highly disrespectful ( but this is matter of one's emphaty).

    Although I agree, you can ignore this sadness, or even enjoy it. I won't blame anyone for that, but it's wrong thing to do in my opinion.

    >>7070
    Well, I guess there are other great minds out there then;)
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    Not only do I enjoy gore, but I especially enjoy the suffering associated with it. The gore itself is just the package it comes in. To me, the sadness of the context is part of what makes it great. It's part of the reason I'm not into post-death gore and I'm not into consensual torture. A butchered corpse of a girl is just a pile of meat, but a living, conscious girl in tears as she is mutilated slowly has some appeal. The things that must be running through her head, the raw emotion of the situation, the trauma and anguish, all are a part of it. Emotion is a drug at the end of the day, good or bad.

    Fortunately, I'm also a reasonable and respectful person. I think it goes without saying on this board, but it's possible to enjoy imagining the unthinkable without endorsing or condoning it in real life. I would never wish these sorts of things on anyone in reality.
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    Interesting. I'm not super into gore, but like you, >>7073, I'm way into the suffering, the physical, emotional, and psychological cruelty of the thing. Though unlike you I'm not into straight up non-consent. I like it to be consensual, semi-consensual, or just like, that's her place in the world and she just doesn't even think about having a choice, and its best if she doesn't enjoy it at all.

    I think part of what makes it exciting in fantasy is how wrong you know it is in reality right? Like, in real life I'm a vegetarian because I don't even like the idea that animals die so I can eat, but in fantasy I will totally make that bitch prep her sister for the oven and fuck her in the ass while making her watch through the window.
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    Nah ur not missing anything. I’m sure if you did it right you’d like it. Irl gore stuff online is mostly such shit
    Tell me with a straight face you could slit someone’s throat and not be aroused, at the very least by the fact of what you’re doing
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    Yeah it’s sad to think about maiming or death in the context of the irl consequences, and maybe you can’t help being turned off if ur empathy is high/normal enough
    But personally the fetish more hinges around the mutilation, blood, guts and the control. Those things in isolation are hot, nothing sad about it

    So, just a quick question as to why threads on GuroChan don't use pages?
    Especially in threads were images are posted, this is seriously annoying, as you have to wait for all the images to load before you can scroll down. (Well, you can try before, but the images will keep on pushing the bottom of the site down until they are all loaded).

    So yeah, pages would make life here A LOT easier.
    But maybe I'm just not seeing the amazing reason as to why they aren't used?
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    >>6907
    Code complexity is about all, I would expect. Pretty much no *chan type server uses anything like that other than at the section overview level, they're all extremely simple (though Enclaved would probably beg to differ given his rant about having to disentangle the original spaghetti code in order to fix it) PHP/MySQL type affairs.

    SELECT FROM TABLE "artwork" WHERE $THREAD = "1429" and all that.

    Heck it might even be a simpler filesystem based setup given how the "forum" and "thread" addresses are given... e.g. for this thread, gurochan.cx/dis/res/6907.html ... this is thread #6907, and it's in Discussion, so each new post regenerates the code of page file 6907.html under folder /dis/res on the gurochan server. Loading the page then requires nothing more than reading the html, and any images inlined to it (which are also stored in a big flat pile inside /dis/res, and found by searching their numerical filename). Doesn't even separate threads into their own folders... I mean, I'd expected this to be more index.html in /dis/res/6907, but that's evidently not the case (or at least, what we can see from the client side doesn't reflect that; it might be like that in reality with the server-side software doing some live translation between the apparent and actual filesystems).

    Very messy, but still entirely effective, and about as simple as it's possible to make. Writing the files so that they cut each page into sections would require adding an extra level of intelligence to the file authoring code to judge where to split them up and providing the nav links, and either making multiple .html files for each page as it grew (not the most difficult, admittedly, as just adding an underscore and then a pair of hex characters would allow 256 separate pages), or twiddling the CSS to fake that (I've no idea myself how you'd make that work, but presume it's doable; however, your browser would still have to load the entire html file even if not the pictures, and in some text-heavy threads the data load of the text and html code can outweigh that of the thumbnailed images).

    Or in other words, if you're that bothered, contact the admin and offer to set it up for him, I'm sure he'd be delighted at not having to fuck with the board code any further in order to provide a change whose benefit is somewhat marginal unless you're stuck on 56k or using an ancient Celeron with very little RAM.

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    * s/regenerates page code/appends a new post section at the end of the page code (just above the footer)

    Like, I doubt it would rewrite the entire page, that would get pretty heavy for the longer ones, and require some kind of separate database or at least creating a temporary single-thread one in the server memory. Much easier to just have each post on a thread marked out with some kind of comment tag (so they can be deleted in a fairly simple manner later on - just erase those particular tags and everything between them, plus any associated image file), and with each new one erase the (standardised) footer, then write in the post data and reappend the footer. The html files themselves become the in-place database, making for a considerable saving in terms of disc space and processing overhead.
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    SELECT * FROM ThreadPosts WHERE threadId = "whatever" ORDER BY postDateTime LIMIT {postsPerPage*pageNumber}, {postsPerPage};

    would work in MySQL.

    And pages threads are useful for more than just load times - it helps you save your place. Instead of having to save something you can Ctrl-F to some file, you can just look up the last page of the thread in your browser history - or if you've set up your browser to re-open the last session's tabs, you're immediately back where you left off.
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    And here's page functionality in JS: pastebin.com/J0rHXEVi

    This could easily be made into a browser extension, but for now, do the following to get it working:

    1. Append ?page=[n] to the end of a thread URL, where [n] is the page number starting at 1.
    2. Reload the page to apply this change.
    3. Open the developer tools by pressing F12.
    4. Navigate to the "Console" tab.
    5. Paste the provided code (see Pastebin link) into the console and press Enter.
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    And here's a Chrome extension based on the code I posted earlier: chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gc-pagination/hjchpmmpmlpobmihjoiafhofacfampmf

    Happy you're back
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    thanks for keeping this site running.
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    :D

    Fresh install system. Cookies died, account long lost.
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    >>7072
    ... make new account

    I just did part of my fetish, I want to be cut in half and live so I can play with my pussy without feeling it, so I used anesthais and I played with my pussy can't feeling pleasure but my tits was good
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    Well so good, I don't feel my pussy like normal but more like a pressure so I did finger and insert large things inside but I did have pain after but my tits was going crazy. Just the feeli g of my tits and licking of my fingers, woohoo good. But it did cost me a lot of money all that. Next time sex like that
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    I want to hear more about this!
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    Yes, it is very interesting to hear what "large things" you inserted there that made it feel pain later.

    And what kind of anesthesia it was.
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    Yes, I know, I want to know how big you could stretch yourself? I want to try this myself.
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    Well i dont know i just paid a nurse to do it, am crazy but not that much.

    Dildo, what was ylu thinking.

    You know girl like to talk sex too,

    If you want to try well find a nurse amd paid. Have fun

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